Kati
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Elbosque, I am very near from where you are. i have hope that the new clinic will provide more elaborate testing and treatments than what is available at the moment.
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CD4:8 ratio can be misleading sometimes, did your cd4 and or cd8 numbers go up or down, also cd56 and cd3 are your nk cells, do u know if it had an effect on these? Also maybe it doesnt effect the numbers but function of those t-cells?
I also wonder if immunovir and inosine can help cfs in other ways, one is that it can increase uric acid which works in the body with cholesterol as an antioxidant so possibly could reduce oxidative stress and improve symptoms in this way.
cheers!!!
@end the protocol for the Inosine is written above your post- x2caps, 3x/day. For the Equilbriant it was to work up to x6 caps/day and back off if you are feeling bad. Feeling bad is not necessarily a good sign of "die off or herx" as some might tend to believe.
Thanks Mij
I guess that means Dr Chia does NOT use a sporadic dosing structure like Dr Klimas(as indicated by Francesca)in regards to the Inosine?? Dr Cheney and others use a similar dosing structure as Klimas, hence my query
Will keep dredging the forums for an answer as this specific question had to have been asked before
Jus thought again about this: But could the concurrent use of the Oxymatrine(and thanks I do realise the whole herx dylema/going slow)negate the need of the sporadic dosing in regards to the Inosine??
I am not sure what your specific questions is, Can you please state only the question? ThanksThanks Mij
I guess that means Dr Chia does NOT use a sporadic dosing structure like Dr Klimas(as indicated by Francesca)in regards to the Inosine?? Dr Cheney and others use a similar dosing structure as Klimas, hence my query
Will keep dredging the forums for an answer as this specific question had to have been asked before
Jus thought again about this: But could the concurrent use of the Oxymatrine(and thanks I do realise the whole herx dylema/going slow)negate the need of the sporadic dosing in regards to the Inosine??
I restponded to your request but I may have not put it right next to this reply. Please go look for it. Francesca
I think you may of mis-understood the dosing correctly...? 6 pills a day for 5 days, saturday and sunday always off, then 3 pills a day for five days saturdau and sunday off. You repeat this for up to two years... that's what Dr. Klimas prescribed for me and others. I find two boxws of 40 tablets leaves me a few pills hsort each month so I always need to keep go in to the pharmacy. Also I strongly recommened you watching my vidoes on YOUTUBE as I recorded them several times a week. I:Retro smile as to catch any other tips! Francesca
I do not know of any but Klimas says that this drug goes by another name ( inosine pranobex) where you can buy it online and I think without a prescription. Ask at this forum and I am sure someone will know. Klimas' miami lab sells it online. good luck!Larista, do you know of an online pharmacy in Italy I can buy the immunovir from? They used to sell it in this part of Europe but because it wasn't making a profit because it was such a cheap medication they took it off the market. Now the same with B12 injections... Very bothersome.
Can you tell me how I can order from Italy into another country in European Union?
Grazie mille!
http://brandmedicines.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=746
Might be what your looking for??
I do not know of any but Klimas says that this drug goes by another name ( inosine pranobex) where you can buy it online and I think without a prescription. Ask at this forum and I am sure someone will know. Klimas' miami lab sells it online. good luck!
It is, Heapsreal, but I'm in Europe. I've just had the 2 most stressful months ever where I ordered $150 worth of supplements from US and they disappeared! Trouble at customs; import taxes and, if it's a med, you can even get in trouble so... no more buying any supplement, much less medication, online from US... It's just not worth the hassle and loss of health due to the stress....
So this website wouldn't be good for me... However I can try and ask where they ship from. That might be an option. I should have bought some when I was in Italy a couple of yrs ago and I was meaning to but then was really ill and just wanted to get the hell out of there. Sigh.
That pharmacy sends Isoprinosine from Bulgaria I think.
I have heard it is very cheap and can buy over the counter in France?
Yes, I then looked at the info they had up and indeed got the impression they're somewhere in Europe. I've e-mailed them. They used to sell it here for very cheap but it was taken off the market for the simple reason that no one bought it really so it didn't make a profit.
We also have Klonopin for dirt cheap. I have been taking for yrs and yrs (would like to come off it actuallly....) and with script I pay 14 cents. But Immonovir is no longer available. It is my understanding that it sill is in a number of European countries however I am bedbound and am housebound for 95% of my time. So I very very very rarely leave the house, let alone travel... If I can get a reliable source online, it would be good. If I knew someone that could buy me it over the counter in France, Italy or elsewhere in EU; that would be a wonderful help. It's even much cheaper than up on this website.
Yes, try a small order; I think so. I will wait a while as I'm about to start GcMAF and that is my n.1 priority but I know for a fact from all the testing I have done over the yrs that my Th1 is very non-existent and that I would most likely benefit from things that will shift from Th2 to Th1 as I have in the past benefited from Nexavir (Kutapressin) and very strong probiotic therapy. Immonovir seems to be somewhat overlooked and compared to all these other immune-modulators it's a very cheap treatment that may help get that Th2 -1 back in balance somewhat.
PS. Have u tried Immunovir and if so did u find it helped you? Thanks!