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Today: Videocast of NIH Council Meeting to authorise major ME/CFS funding - Thursday 26 May 2pm EDT

Kati

Patient in training
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It was a bit underwhelming, but what striked me most is that when they posted a grant application for ME/cfs they received no application. It shows how neglected and stigmatized the field is not only in health care, but at the researcher level. It feels like solitary confinement
 

Denise

Senior Member
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If I understand correctly, the next step is that each of institutes that are part of the Trans-NIH Working Group have to approve funding for this.
 

Seven7

Seven
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what striked me most is that when they posted a grant application for ME/cfs they received no application
1) First problem is now we need to train the granters (I forgot what they are called) but if they reject all applications we gain nothing with money. This is urgent and maybe as a community we set up an education or presentation package for them on what we know so far of CFS and how patients are doing.
2) To apply for a grant as a new researcher, you need to apply for grant (time to fill out and process the applications) w hypothesis (money to do a small pilot needed), so we need to grant money to start up applications so they can even get to the money.
 

Rooney

Senior Member
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To apply for a grant as a new researcher, you need to apply for grant (time to fill out and process the applications) w hypothesis (money to do a small pilot needed), so we need to grant money to start up applications so they can even get to the money.
Yesterday in Ron Davis's remarks at the protest, he stated that his application was turned down because he could not provide an hypothesis.
 

Seven7

Seven
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Yesterday in Ron Davis's remarks at the protest, he stated that his application was turned down because he could not provide a hypothesis.
We need to ask the NIH people how to address that.

I had a friend also that couldn't apply because she didn't have money to get even to the hypothesis. this is a Big issue we need to address. Have a plan.
 

Kati

Patient in training
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It reminds me of the woman at last year's CFSAC that said "the applications, they weren't that good" so simply, some will try, 97% gets rejected, so they simply try where they have more chances of acceptance (Zika, Ebola, HIV, Cancer)