Hi elph68
I'm 41 and this is my fifth year of this. My symptoms are similar to yours: chronic prostatitis, rectal burning, burning throat a few times a year, insomnia, muscle fatigue, joint pains and muscle twitching and tingling everywhere, and extreme exhaustion at times.
Pinballed around std clinics, gp's, 2 urologists, a dermatologist, naturopath and ayurvedic practioner with no genuine answers or treatment.
Doctors data has led my current gp to use gse extract and colloidal silver to go after alpha hemolytic and candida. Enteroccocus is similar level to alpha hemolytic but am told not to worry... Also klebsiella is there.
Colloidal silver for last two weeks has helped a little. My diet is really clean, no sugar, coffee, flour, junk food etc which helps a little in reducing flares but obviously isn't addressing bugs/imbalances. Kombucha, kefir milk, sourkrout and a raft of herbs plus ayurvedic specific foods. Im thinking this needs to be done in conjunction or after we eradicate bad bugs. Im not addressing the biotoxins...
I have a partner suffering only minor symptoms and our 2 year old son wakes regularly from twitches. None of this is normal and it's very disturbing. He's an intelligent happy boy, but lm worried about his long term.
I understand you're on long term abx and wanted to get your thoughts on your prognosis and also if/how you'll treat your partner and child, if necessary? Sorry if l'm being too personal, you and others here are more knowledgeable and this has been going too long and l'm worried about my son.
I live in Melbourne and have struggled for adequate testing and treatment. I see you recommend bioscreen, are they more comprehensive than doctors data?
Cheers,
Mark
Hi Mark,
You are right ..... Pretty much like looking in a mirror ..... I can honestly say I know EXACTLY how you feel ....
Bio screen will give you specifically what bacteria are causing your problem.
This is my current list of bacteria that I know (from desktop research and personal experience) cause these problems ....
Primary pathogens:
Enterococcus faecalis
Streptococcus parasanguinis
Streptococcus sanguinis
Streptococcus infantis
Streptococcus anginosus
Streptococcus mutans
Secondary pathogens:
Lactobacillus acidophilus and some other lactobacillus species
Some bifidobacterium species
The primary pathogen criteria are:
Biofilm forming in the presence of sucrose/glucose
Hydrogen peroxide producing
Hydrogen sulphide producing in the presence of sucrose/glucose
D lactic acid producing in the presence of sucrose/glucose
Once these primary pathogens form biofilms the secondary pathogens join in and make the situation worse.
Ladies ..... Between ovulation and menstruation the cervix pumps out bucket loads of sucrose/glucose .... These species then start multiplying and producing these chemicals which causes vagina problems ..... Yo may not even realise that you have them .... Or you may be in extreme pain ...... The same is true after intercourse .... Semen is full of glucose/sucrose ..... Thus a lot of ladies have problems after intercourse
Guys .... Prostate is full of sucrose/glucose .... So when they get in there .... It is prostatitis ....... Also when you have intercourse with a lady in that pre-menstruation period .... Highly likely that you will have burning during/after intercourse ..... Especially men that are uncircumcised ..... Like me, I have a lot of men that tell me this happened when they have started intercourse with a new partner .... Burning .....
Guys, if for some reason you get the vaginal fluids in your eyes or mouth during this same period ..... I believe it is highly likely that it will either cause burning, or at the very least a dry or irritated sensation ...... This always happens to me ....
I have a simple test that you can try ..... Get 500mls of methylated spirits and mix a teaspoon of ground turmeric in it. Get samples of urine, semen, prostate fluid and saliva and mix with the metho/turmeric and it should turn scarlet red ..... If it doesn't, then you can show your doctor at least, there is an acid problem ..... Do this every day if you have to .... See if it changes over a period .... Or can be linked to symptom severity .....
Klebsiella makes you lactose intolerant .....
I can't get my family treated .... Because they only have CFS type symptoms sleep disorders and depression.
And yes like you I am very concerned of their future health.
And everybody has these bacteria, but not everybody has these bacteria .... It is when there is multiple species working together that causes the problem ..... That is why it is the undetectable infection ......
Cheers