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Something is not right with this product for me. It seems less potent to me. Any one else have the same observations?
Laurie
Freddd,
I did the 50 mg challenge on wednesday with it. Wednesday was fine. Thursday was not. Half of today was not. And then whatever was going on seems to have lifted.
I believe I absorb every last bit of it, because I do not get a color change in my urine. Red or yellow, nothing.
And here is something else weird, when I first started doing the methylation, after the first few weeks, if you will remember I believe I talked about hot flashes, or fever flashes that didn't seem to coincide with any of my dosages or that of the B Right either. These were random, sometimes happening quickly or as far as three hours after dosing. This happened intermittently throughout the day, and lasted for about three weeks and then just went away.
I got those back today. They started after whatever weird was going on lifted. For thrusday and part of today, I was back in my matted glass house. My eyes were bothering me, and were red too. Then, after my afternoon normal dose, poof, dissappeared and now the hot flashes. That dose I paired with DMG BTW.
That matted glass house feeling got me to wondering if perhaps the adenosyl from Source Naturals may not be potent enough, but I now don't believe that to be the case.
Do you think that challenge could have had that type of effect?
Laurie
Hi Laurie,
I need to order more adb12. Would you at this point recommend trying the Source Naturals brand? Also, are you still taking the B-Right or are you trying a different brand?
Thanks,
Shelly
The Anabol Naturals is very potent. I took half of one and had a strong reaction.
I think you have this backwards. If you absorbed any significant amount into your serum you would have seen it in your urine. It takes somewhere between 2.5 and 5mg absorbed usually to start showing up in urine in the couple of hours following the 50mg. If this absorbed the same as Jarrow mb12 or Country Life Dibencozide you would have absorbed 7.5-12.5mg in 45-120 minutes.
Have you tried this same challange with Country Life as the basis of effect and absorption comparison or Jarrow mb12 as a basis of absorption comparison. In my experience one feels it by the end of the absorption period if it is going to be felt. I have some doubt that it is being absorbed as well as those other brands.
What "afternoon normal dose"? I would suggest trying it again without the DMG. That makes for two unknowns. Are you taking l-carnitine fumarate?
I would expect that "b12" effect to be the same as the County Life. The folic acid is responsible for for improved energy. Perhaps what is needed is to take 1600mcg of Metafolin with the Country Life and then 800mcg of Metafolin with the Source Natural next time to try to set the stage the same. Also you need to be taking Metafolin routinely I would suggest, to then get a solid reading on this.
Freddd,
I have seen some color changes to my urine, but those days are sporadic, and the changes are correlated with an odor. Again. Just like when I first started the DMG sometime ago. Except when this "odor" is present, the color of my urine doesn't LOOK any different than what is termed normal straw colored. And really the only 'change" visually that has been quite noticable is the clarity of it. It was once very cloudy, and my urinalysis results confirmed multiple epithelial cells, yadi ya. It isn't anymore.
The BRight will change the color for a few to six hours or so, but that is due to the B2 in it.
If I weren't absorbing than I wouldn't of reacted in a positive manner for start up symptoms. Of which BTW, I again have the same start up symptoms from the Source Naturals AdB12 that I did when I first started the protocol recommendations from you with the Country Life Adb12.
If there is a change in my urine color, then I don't recognize it, or I have kidney problems if I can't excrete it. But the recognizable color change from the BRight would indicate that I most likely do not recognize the color changes you refer to.
I have done the 51mg challenge many times inadvertently with the Country Life Adb12. I had nothing then occuring like I do know. That being change in vison clarity, headaches, irritability. I was doubting its potency compared to the other, not my absorption capacity. Which I don't believe is the issue. These headaches are a classic startup symptom for me with Adenosyl B12.
What?!! I don't know since switching whether you are experiencing start up again or not, or whether you just haven't been paying attention. I have posted my dosages I take and of what before, and perhaps I have been brain fucked, in that I thought since we were so similar in our reactions and high dosages, that you were aware of those.
DMG is not a "new thing" for me. I have been taking it for quite sometime, as the thread DMG will attest. Why on earth would I try it without? That would be a new parameter. The only thing I have changed is the adenosyl b.
And I believe you have asked me multiple times about the LCarnitine Fumarate. Yes, I am taking it.
As far as energy, after nine days on the new product, the Source Naturals, that initial fatigue has since gone away, again.
This next sentence of yours just blows me away. How can you even suggest to take the Country Life with the folic acid? Knowing that it was the folic acid in the first place in which I believed was stalling my progress in the first place, of which you paid attention to, and are now changing your protocol suggestions? !! And since cutting the folic acid down to just what was in the BRight, and the progress in healing since that, I won't touch the Country Life again, considering the high doses of adeno that I need which would again result in the high doses of folic acid that I don't want.
Metafolin routinely? Your kidding me. How many times have I posted that information? I started with the ad b12, and then the methyl b12, and then the metafolin. Probably been taking it "routinely" since November 2010. ??? 8800 remember?
I don't know what is going on here, but this post sounds opposite and contridictory to what we have discussed in the past on these threads.
You know, I am now thoroughly confused.
Laurie