joshualevy
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Wow! Ruscetti just confirmed ERV's information that the same slide was used twice, to show two different things!
Here is the story: http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/10/xmrv-researcher-fired.html
And here is the quote:
Even worse, Ruscetti says that the Conference image was closer to the original than the Science image. But Ruscetti and Mikovits say that it wasn't fraud, because they witheld some information on their protocol from the Science paper, so they were not lying when the labeled the conference image. Quote is below:
So what they are saying now is:
They might be right on that last point (if they are telling the truth), but in terms of their credibility, it's completely destructive.
V99 and Angela, are you going to apologies to ERV now? In the end, she was right about that image.
Joshua (not Jay!) Levy
Here is the story: http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/10/xmrv-researcher-fired.html
And here is the quote:
Mikovits's collaborator, Francis Ruscetti of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) in Frederick, Maryland, who ran all of the Western blots, confirms that the Ottawa slide uses the same image that appears in Lombardi et al.
Even worse, Ruscetti says that the Conference image was closer to the original than the Science image. But Ruscetti and Mikovits say that it wasn't fraud, because they witheld some information on their protocol from the Science paper, so they were not lying when the labeled the conference image. Quote is below:
As far as the use of 5-Azacytidine, Ruscetti and Mikovits stressed in their e-mail that "there was no attempt in the original paper to hide anything." They say for the purposes of Lombardi et al., the use of 5-Azacytidine was not germane: They were simply trying to demonstrate that CFS patients had viral proteins not seen in controls. By the time of the Ottawa meeting, they say they realized that this experiment did not in fact show XMRV but proteins from a broader family of gammaretroviruses.
So what they are saying now is:
- We were really sloppy with the image.
- We didn't report properly on the use of 5-Azacytidine in the science paper, even though it was an important part of our protocol.
- But it's not fraud.
They might be right on that last point (if they are telling the truth), but in terms of their credibility, it's completely destructive.
V99 and Angela, are you going to apologies to ERV now? In the end, she was right about that image.
Joshua (not Jay!) Levy