I live in the U.S., so I don't think I can buy Zopiclone here. Does anyone else know if it's possible?
what dose of doxepin do u use, some find 10mg more then enough?[/quote]
I was taking part of a Doxepin capsule, but just tried the liquid form last night (3 drops or 3mg) and have much less grogginess today. I took it with .5mg of clonezepam. I feel some grogginess from the clonezepam, but maybe this gets better the longer you take it (this is only the 2nd time I've taken it). The downside is that I didn't feel like I got deep enough sleep and I only slept for 6 hours. Is it common with this drug combination to not get deep sleep? Also, the tinnitus started up again shortly after taking the meds last night. It wasn't as loud as it was before when I took Sonata and Ambien, but I'm concerned it could get worse. It's not bad right now.
[/quote]Trazadone i find doesnt put me to sleep but when used with a low dose benzo greatly improves sleep.[/quote]
Which benzo do you take the Trazadone with? I have a bottle and was thinking about trying it with the Restoril or the Clonezepam to see if I could get deeper sleep, but I didn't know how well those drugs would combine. I've heard the clonezepam is supposed to be very synergistic with Doxepin, but haven't heard about how well it works with other sleep prolongers.
[/quote] I think u will find some meds dont really help with falling asleep but can help sleep mainteneance, this is where u could maybe add melatonin, but mostly i have found i need a low dose of a benzo to initiate sleep?[/quote]
Unfortunately, I can't take melatonin due to the autoimmune condition (which is separate from the CFS). But it seems that I definitely need something to initiate sleep and something else to prolong it.
[/quote]Other meds worth looking into are different antihistamine, diphenhydramine, phenergan and doxylamine, periactin, atarax.[/quote]
I have tried diphenhydramine/Benadryl, but it didn't help me sleep. Do you think doxylamine or phenergan would work any better than Doxepin at prolonging sleep or with help going into deep sleep?
Amitriptyline is on the list of drugs that can cause tinnitus, so I'd prefer to avoid that one.
[/quote] If using antidepressants in low doses for sleep it should be ok to alternate nightly or every few nights as being a low dose interactions shouldnt occur but worth talking to doc about it. [/quote]
Yes, I wondered about whether it was a good idea to alternate Doxepin and Trazedone, since they are both anti-depressants.
[/quote] Natural stuff i also use for sleep tryptophan in doses of say 3000mg, with active vit b6 called p5p, but would take this if using an antidepressant(serontonin syndrome). Phosphatidyleserine(PS) at 500mg helps with high night time cortisol and something that has really improved my sleep quality the last few months. [/quote]
I tried the Phos Serine, but it didn't work for me. Unfortunately, I can't tolerate the tryptophan[/quote]
Zopiclone i dont think u can get in america but lunesta is very similar.
Besides z drugs the only benzo i use is valium and very occassionally mogadon.
Antihistamines doxylamine i think is one of the most sedating but tolerance does occur quickly with these things. diphenhydramine i find on its own doesnt put me to sleep but helps deep sleep when i use it with a z-drug or benzo.
Phos serine is another thing that own its own doesnt seem to do alot but combined with a sl;eep med increases sleep quality.
Some of the muscle relaxers may help, baclofen? i find again i need to use with another med but some find on its own puts them to sleep. another is tinazadine(spelling?) which can help initiate sleep?