trickthefox
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Are you certain about not tolerating any form of Lactobacillus? Or is it just the ones producing D-Lactate?Thanks, Hip. I just got prescribed a probiotic by KDM and it's full of Lactobacillus, which I don't tolerate well.
I had a major reaction to L salivarius and it had devastating consequences for my ME so I strongly recommend that everyone avoid it. I think it acts a bit like an antibiotic, in that it kills off other gut flora, which is why it's sometimes recommended for diarrhoea caused by food bacteria.Other L. species with this capability are salivarius
That's interesting. I've used two different probiotic formulas with salivarius in them, and didn't have any negative reactions. Then again, before I took these probiotics, I had very severe IBS-D bordering on steatorrhea. Daily dumps of stinky sticky goo is not fun. Ten days of Xifaxan and the new probiotics cleaned up my gut nicely.I had a major reaction to L salivarius and it had devastating consequences for my ME so I strongly recommend that everyone avoid it. I think it acts a bit like an antibiotic, in that it kills off other gut flora, which is why it's sometimes recommended for diarrhoea caused by food bacteria.
Are you certain about not tolerating any form of Lactobacillus? Or is it just the ones producing D-Lactate?
One of the better probiotics I take is Jarrow Ideal Bowel Support. It's L. plantarum 299v, which doesn't produce D-Lactate.
Other L. species with this capability are salivarius and rhamnosus, found in Custom Probiotics D-Lactate Powder.
Which particular strains of Lactobacillus are in that probiotic that KDM prescribed?
It seems like the Amazon seller is out of Miyarison. I tried going to company's website and sent them a message asking who their retailers are. I also wanted to ask you since you seem very in the know. I'm a little uneasy about the safety of purchasing them on eBay. If you have any ideas that'd be great.Well, I just read the first page, and to summarize:
1) Clostridium is a probiotic and it's awesome.
2) It increases butyrate while reducing lactate.
3) It's available on Amazon here, under the brand Miyarisan (Miss Clever Girl? ADORABLE.)
4) Start low and go slow (que surprise!) Some digestive rumblings are normal at the start, and whenever you up it.
5) For some who have NEVER had betterment of their symptoms, this is the one thing that has helped.
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-J
It seems like the Amazon seller is out of Miyarison. I tried going to company's website and sent them a message asking who their retailers are. I also wanted to ask you since you seem very in the know. I'm a little uneasy about the safety of purchasing them on eBay. If you have any ideas that'd be great.
Just to keep searching. I'm taking something totally different, though I might add Clostridium sometime soon, so I'm not sure about sources.
-J