Just a note on my copper experience that appears duplicated in another person. I had plenty pof symptoms, ALL from the methylation group, but a narrow spread, with a serum level of 74 (72 is bottom, top was about 160 or so). After starting the titration, I would feel better for a day and then it got worse with a vengeance. I had worked up to 20mg daily before it would hold steady. At my next appointment the copper was down to 67. I have continued to heal visibly. It looks like when the processes using copper are started by taking so copper, more is required than is being given, like it is an on or off, not proportional to dose. This appears to cause a paradoxical looking copper serum level, that drops when copper is given until the intake is enough to supply the daily demand. The rate of visible healing went way up with that too.
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@Freddd. The upper daily limit for copper is supposed to be 10mg - but you're okay on 20?
I appear to have become copper deficient from too much zinc (treating pyroluria), and maybe C & B vitamins, plus a background of 3 years of Cutler chelation with high doses of alpha lipoic acid. My symptoms are more textbook than I've seen here: raging infections (presumably from neutropenia), crap mood, and pale & dizzy-when-standing (feels like anemia). I'm guessing the 'anemia' might be low iron or iron deficiency anemia - low copper causing low iron - but am open to suggestion.
Do you mind listing your symptoms (or linking to where you have already done so)?
Your observations about replenishing Cu are interesting. Are you suggesting there is a 'paradoxical copper deficiency', or am I misreading you?
I'm trying transdermal copper (crush up the pill & apply to the skin in a compress, mixed with some oil), which is working so far.
No blood tests yet, but everything improves as soon as I take copper, same as
@Jamo77 above.
Jamo, I haven't heard about a 'copper taste test', though I do know that the World Zinc Symposium regards the much-vaunted zinc taste test as being not very useful. My copper pills tasted metallic from the beginning, & still do. (This is my second bout of -Cu this year: I had 2 months on copper supps earlier in the year.)
The chocolate craving sounds a bit more indicative, at a guess.
Dr Cutler writes that hair levels of iron have no connection to body stores.
After this experience, I'd extrapolate
@Gondwanaland's dictum about taking too much of any one of the B vitamins to just about any vitamin or mineral. I aim to take a lot less supplements, & replace them with food sources.