Journeyman
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Hi all,
B12 supplementation seems to be such a grey area. Even when searching for journal literature to confirm the efficacy or otherwise of the latest B12 treatments such as nasal sprays or transdermal oils I'm finding inconclusive findings.
I made a point of learning B12 some 2 years ago with the most useful information coming from Fredd's postings here on the issue. More recently in 2015 after 2 years of using sublingual b12's I faced an enormous dental bill to fix my teeth where the enamel had been destroyed by the consistent B12 usage (taking regular pineapple fruit didn't help either!) I tried transdermal b12. As to how effective it is I can't really say. Having read all the symptoms people describe following a given b12 its hard to know whether the symptamologyg is the result of the product being inadequate or perhaps too effective (healing reactions or toxic metal mobilisation?)
I recently had elevated MCV's on a standard blood test and noticed an upward trend over the past year. I suspect that I never actually built my B12 levels to a substantial level, or the coffee enema's I did following B12 supplementation have somehow drained the liver stores of it meaning that after 9 months of no B12 supplementation my levels are finally low again?
Either way I'm about to do an order of some form of B12 and am baulking at doing another transdermal order. I know theres talk in these forums about 80% absorption from these oils, but this seems grossly exagerrated given recent journal articles I've read on the issue where they struggled to make an oil that would even deliver 5% effective dose.....
I've got 6x 1mg hydroxy b12 ampoules ready to go and was thinking about doing a short term flood of the system of B12 but I recognise I'll need something longer term as this nanny state we live in here in Australia makes it so hard to source syringes needed to administer these shots.
What about Nasal delivery systems. Having read http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/methylcobalamin-inhalation-therapy.33045/page-11
I see things might have moved on in terms of B12 supplementation. @ahmo @caledonia @Learner1 @alicec I'd be keen to get your thoughts on this. Particularly taking into account this:
https://pure.uva.nl/ws/files/3653062/3331_30771y.pdf
contrasting with this:
https://b12researchgroup.wordpress.com/warning-about-the-use-of-b12-sublingual-tablets/
Keen to get your thoughts relating to the best value but most effective active b12 delivery option...
Regards
Journeyman
B12 supplementation seems to be such a grey area. Even when searching for journal literature to confirm the efficacy or otherwise of the latest B12 treatments such as nasal sprays or transdermal oils I'm finding inconclusive findings.
I made a point of learning B12 some 2 years ago with the most useful information coming from Fredd's postings here on the issue. More recently in 2015 after 2 years of using sublingual b12's I faced an enormous dental bill to fix my teeth where the enamel had been destroyed by the consistent B12 usage (taking regular pineapple fruit didn't help either!) I tried transdermal b12. As to how effective it is I can't really say. Having read all the symptoms people describe following a given b12 its hard to know whether the symptamologyg is the result of the product being inadequate or perhaps too effective (healing reactions or toxic metal mobilisation?)
I recently had elevated MCV's on a standard blood test and noticed an upward trend over the past year. I suspect that I never actually built my B12 levels to a substantial level, or the coffee enema's I did following B12 supplementation have somehow drained the liver stores of it meaning that after 9 months of no B12 supplementation my levels are finally low again?
Either way I'm about to do an order of some form of B12 and am baulking at doing another transdermal order. I know theres talk in these forums about 80% absorption from these oils, but this seems grossly exagerrated given recent journal articles I've read on the issue where they struggled to make an oil that would even deliver 5% effective dose.....
I've got 6x 1mg hydroxy b12 ampoules ready to go and was thinking about doing a short term flood of the system of B12 but I recognise I'll need something longer term as this nanny state we live in here in Australia makes it so hard to source syringes needed to administer these shots.
What about Nasal delivery systems. Having read http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/methylcobalamin-inhalation-therapy.33045/page-11
I see things might have moved on in terms of B12 supplementation. @ahmo @caledonia @Learner1 @alicec I'd be keen to get your thoughts on this. Particularly taking into account this:
https://pure.uva.nl/ws/files/3653062/3331_30771y.pdf
contrasting with this:
https://b12researchgroup.wordpress.com/warning-about-the-use-of-b12-sublingual-tablets/
Keen to get your thoughts relating to the best value but most effective active b12 delivery option...
Regards
Journeyman