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This may sound hokey..Rife Machine for CFS

Discussion in 'Alternative Therapies' started by Lee Ann, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. Jacque

    Jacque Senior Member

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    With my brain I am unable to do really accurate research...but the BCX Ultra sounds like the machine for me... And it was $2,700. The one I have right now was made buy a guy in his garage... it does work...but I just want the newer updated machine with the plasma tubes and newer frequencies. I am not at all concerned with spending the $2,700 after what I just shelled out on allopath medicine and got worse... I know for a fact these machines work...what i am nervous about is will I be able to be consistent and tolerate the die off... I don't know if I posted this yet but I spoke with a guy in Az. who said he is about 60-70% better in 6 months and able to work again doing the BCX and Sea Salt Capsules... He did say it was herxing hellllish tho... I am convinced this illness is pure evil... it does not give up without a horrid fight for territory... And I admit in the past I have caved from the herxes ansd not continued in the "kill off' mode... So the pathogens WON... Somehow this time...I just gotta DO IT... If I were you all lookin at the different machines call Judy at www.bioelectricsforhealth.com she is quite knowledgable, candid, and has been where we are.. I honestly don't know why they cost what they do....? I know on her site if you scroll down there is a good link with success stories to read... Lets DO this! Big hugs to all...
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    Jacque Senior Member

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    Yah from what I remember reading Royal Rife died mysteriously and I recently learned that Lynn Kenney who sold the Beam Ray has recently passed under some very weird circumstances...? I wouldn't be shocked to learn something sinister behind it all... Just think of the $$$ it would take from the pharmaceuticals if every household could have one and treat themselves...for colds, flu, ear infections, etc...
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    Oh and also learning that the Evita Clinic in Phoenix Az. is recommending the BCX to their patients was impressive to me... as well as learning from a very close friend that her physician up in the SF Bay area who is a Lyme specialist said the BCX is the best to get the job done... But who's to say... you all need to do your own research and figure out which one sounds best to you..
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    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    golden, you could buy a cheaper machine, even a used one, to see if you respond to the treatment. If you do, you could then get a better machine.
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    So for us novices, what does this look like? You get this machine in a box, and then what? Is there setup? Is it complicated to use?

    And how do you decide what pathogens to work on, in what order?
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  6. Sushi

    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    madietodd

    There are many different types. Mine is a small box with dials and places to plug in different kinds of electrodes--steel cylinders held in each hand, crystal filled cylinders and flat plates that you place over a specific area you want to treat.

    They come with details manuals (well most do!) You can program a machine to run through the frequencies for a long list of pathogens and see which you get a "hit" on. Also there are frequencies for different conditions (usually these are a combination of frequencies that run in a certain order) and there are ones for detox, general wellness, sleep, etc., etc. Mine is very easy to use--no set up.

    Sushi
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    does it give diagnostic feedback??

    I had my asyra appt today ... it brough up a wild card fatal familial insomnia :) thing is i sleep ok (just dont heal quick enough )... butit does keep on bringing up these odd brain diseases form me - so giving it a bit of leeway for being in the right area :) its still showing active lyme infection plus few other things ....

    I got home and had really deep sleep - felted well rested - on way home i found a brand new tent for 5pounds - some people may remember i was waiting for one . Now , i am in the wild part of my garden in my new tent :) ( with my earthing sheet ) it feels great :)
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    golden

    Yes, it gives diagnostic feedback.

    And, a question for you: what kind of earthing sheet do you have--though they may be different in the US?

    Sushi
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    golden Senior Member

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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    golden Senior Member

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    The rod and the wire look identical - obviously the plug is different - but I cant get a clear image of the sheet ...

    that link is where i got mine from - maybe there is a description of the thread used and this could be compared easier ....

    My fault - i went off topic - sorry :)
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  12. Jacque

    Jacque Senior Member

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    I don't know what Sushi's looks like but there is a pic of the one I bought at www.bioelectricsforhealth.com . there are a lot of them to choose from so it is kinda confusing... So I went with one that is recommended by some well respected docs that treat Lyme, CFS, etc... most rife machines come with a manual and there are lists of issues from herpes to headaches...and then it gives the freqency numbers to run. The machine I have right now i have to punch in the numbers separately then set a timer...(pain in the butt)... The new machine I bought has all of the frequecies already built into different programs to run for different problems. For instance, they tried to add in all of the known co infections of Lyme to the Lyme protocol... such as EBV, HHV6, CMV etc... i will know more about this one when i get it hopefully the end of this week... And I will keep you posted as I go... but it is gonna be a slow process. If anyone wants to buy my rife machine I paid $500 and would sell it for $200 if any one wanted to try it first bf buying an expensive one. This one works I just want want the build in programs.

    Hey if I can achieve benefits almost identical to taking the toxic meds...Rifing makes a lot of sense.

    Also if you have Lyme or suspect it read the book Lyme Disease and Rife Machines, I think is the title... The book does an excellent job of explaining why the Antibiotics do not work for most ... long term. The antibiotics activate the Bactria's defense mechanism...so they run and HIDE....and the abx are also have anti inflammitory effects. So once the patient stops taking the abx the inflammation returns and the buggers come back in larger numbers!!!! Rifing does NOT activate the defense mechanism...the little bastards don't even know what is coming, they have no time to run and hide.

    I have a very close friend who has late stage Lyme... I have literally watched this happen to her... She has done 4 rounds of IV abx now and a LOT of the oral... She has gone into remission 3? times... and will be ready to dance and work again...and before i know it she calls and tells me it is back. The amount of $$ she has spent on the STRONG IV abx is outrageous, compared to $2,500 for a Rife Machine... But everyone has to pick what resonates with them at the time. She says her Lyme physician says the BCX is the best Rife machine for Lyme...and I think she will get one in the future...just to keep the suckers killed off... Cuz as we all know we never get every LAST ONE...

    This will be a life long treatment for me... Don't want to say "battle" because it sounds so negative...but in reality...that is what it is.... Thank God I am fiesty:mad:
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  13. Wayne

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    Hi All,

    I'm feeling mostly out of commission these days, and haven't really had a chance to read these latest posts. But I thought I'd mention a few things about the GB-4000 Rife machine I bought about 2-3 years ago. From what I could gather at the time I purchased mine, there were several good machines on the market, but this was the only I became aware of where you could start out with just a contact machine (hand cylinders), and upgrade to a plasma machine, which is supposed to be much more powerful. The BG-4000 "contact only" machine was about $1900. The upgrade to plasma adds another $3,000 or so (as I remember). If I had gone with a plasma machine right away, it would have been about $5,000 up front.

    Another reason I went with the GB-4000 was because I called the office of Raj Patel, an MD and alternative health care practitioner who treats many people in the SF Bay area for CFS and/or Lyme, and was told this was the one he used. It was also the one chosen by a local ND I see occasionally, someone who had followed the evolution of Rife technology for many years, and felt this machine was the closest to the original one created by Rife.

    A couple other reasons I chose this machine: 1) It runs as many as 7-8 frequencies at one time [if I remember correctly], saving a tremendous amount of time as compared to running only one frequency at a time. 2) It also had a feature in which you could vary the designated frequencies. In other words, since they assume there are many kinds of pathogens we don't know about, the frequencies that they do know about are programmed to run slightly higher and slightly lower frequencies, to be effective against a wider variety of pathogens. They've apparently gotten remarkably positive feedback from cancer patients who have used this feature.

    I can't think of anything more at the moment. I should add that I haven't used mine in probably a year or so. My partner found it discouraging that it gave me such difficult herx reactions, and wasn't so sure I should continue with it. Because of her feedback, and my change of orientation toward homeopathy (or just plain old brain fog), I've not gotten back to it. But I still think of it often, and feel I should get re-started on it. Despite some of the difficult herx reactions, and I also had times of feeling remarkably better. I wrote about some of my experiences with using Rife to try to treat my Lyme on this thread:

    Improving Using Rife and MMS for Lyme
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    Is there any chance that what looks like herxing is actually the body reacting to the introduction of this kind of frequency wave in general? I just wonder if people would "herx" using frequencies for pathogens they don't carry.
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    I think the best deal as far as money and the quality of the machine one can get is from Mr. Ralph Hartwell. His devices are designed after the beam ray devices. These devices were shown to be just as effective as Dr. Rife's original machine. It just used different sidebands or something like that.

    http://rifevideos.com/dr_rife_and_philip_hoylands_3.3mhz_sweep.html

    But, his prices are much lower than many others. There are a couple of ways to go with his machine. The cheapest option would be to buy the SSQ2F for ($175) and buy a small bulb from Bill Cheb. Mr. Cheb sells the plasma bulbs that Mr. Hartwell uses for his products. His bulb (1" x 16" ssq pt) costs $198 dollars. Then you would use the frex program which can be purchased to run continuously for $70 dollars. You can certainly try it out for free at frex.com.au. So, the SSQ2F can produce I believe it is 100 peak watts for the little bulb that Mr. Cheb would sell. I think there are probably misc chords with this and such. But, this is a very feasible way to get in todays day and age an authentic Rife machine. If there is such a thing. But, there aren't many that use the carrier wave. I think that is important because you can transmit more power with the frequency.

    The other way to go with Mr. Hartwell's products is to buy the frex program, the SSQ2F and the PA1 amplifier. This is a much more powerful option. I don't know how much more powerful but I think it was 500 watts peak to peak. It uses a larger bulb and from my understanding would have a stronger effect on the pathogens. The bulb used for this tympe of machine would cost $295 from Mr. Cheb instead of $198. So, for $350, plus $295, plus $70 for the frex program one would have great system. The most difficult challenge in building the amplifier that would need to be built.

    http://rife-beam-ray.com/PS1/index.htm to provide the power to the amplifier and the bulb. I am just trying to work thru it with my failing health. I spent $100 dollars for 10 power supplies, $40 dollars on a RG213 chord to transmit high power to the bulb and probably 60 dollars on other miscellaneous things.

    I have a function generator and decided to use that instead of the ssq2f and frex program. I just had to buy the PA2 amplifier and try to build the battery pack and buy the bulb.

    The problem honestly is it takes someone with a background in electronics or something willing to spend a lot of time trying to learn how the components even work to hook it up.

    Kind of thinking out loud, I think if people wanted to go this way someone could start making videos on youtube to help walk people thru it or maybe even talk about it at a local chronic fatigue syndrome meeting in people's areas. In my opinion it is the best rife machine out there on the market, which is the most affordable. One just has to get over the challenges of building the power supply.
    David
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    does anyone know if its better than the asyra?
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Does asyra treat as well as diagnose? Rife is mainly treatment.

    Sushi
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    I wonder about this too. Even if it works on various pathogens (and I'm not ruling that out), I think it could also potentially cause damage to our own molecules/cells. Thoughts on that?
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    madietodd said:
    snowathlete said:
    Thing is, you don't get any Herx from frequencies for things you don't have. There are a lot of programs like detox and general health and wellness that actually make you feel immediately better.

    But who knows about subtle dangers. We are messing with fire a lot and least this type of treatment has a long history without known adverse effects.

    Sushi
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    I have run many of the frequencies like 10K for wellbeing or the Adrenal settings etc...and NO herx...but the minute I dial in the viruses, Candida, Lyme or Co infections... WHAMO ... SLAMO.... I do know there are some out there who have intense reactions to any kind of EMF of any kind... there are so mannnny machines to choose from that it makes us dizzy for sure. Just find one that is recommended by a highly regarded professional who "knows" our illness...

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