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Salt cave anyone?

Discussion in 'Addressing Biotoxin, Chemical & Food Sensitivities' started by cigana, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. cigana

    cigana Senior Member

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    I read about salt caves here:
    http://www.saltcave.co.uk/adults
    Salt is somehow pumped into the air, and apparently it has many positive health effects: anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, removes pathogens and reduces immune system oversensitivity.
    Might be worth trying.
     
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    Ema Senior Member

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    I designed a bar using salt bricks behind the bottles once.

    This isn't it...but it looks similar:

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    It was way cool...gosh, I miss work.
     
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    This is a well known medical treatment in certain parts of Russia, used for athritis a lot as well from what I have read.. Definitely worth looking into, I wonder if epsom salt baths give a similar effect?
     
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Some time ago, I performed a salt therapy experiment: I filled my ultrasonic humidifier with 500 ml of water in which I had dissolved two heaped teaspoons of sea salt. The idea was to use the ultrasonic humidifier to fill the air in my bedroom with a suspension of tiny particles of sea salt.

    In fact, this technique worked so well that the atmosphere in the bedroom became slightly misty and foggy due to the high salt content of the air. When I awoke the following morning, after having slept the whole night in this salty air, I felt very, very good, and profoundly relaxed.

    The only downside of my treatment is the fine white layer of salt that you find on all your furniture and objects in the room the next day. This is easily removed with a damp sponge, but is a bit of a show stopper really.

    One point: if you try this, don't use salt that contains silicon dioxide (silica) as the anti-caking agent. Silica is a healthy supplement to take orally, but it should not be breathed into the lungs (silicosis risk). Some salts have sodium hexacyanoferrate II as the anti-caking agent, which I don't think is good for lungs either.

    I used pure sea salt with no added ingredients.
     
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    I wonder if you had a small area, if it would be easier to manage. My apartment has a jack-and-jill bathroom. Not sure if that translates. But there's a room with a sink and toilet - with a door leading to a room with only a tub - with a door leading to a third room with another sink and toilet.

    The layer of salt would be restricted to just the room containing the tub... admittedly I wouldn't want to sleep in there. But if I was already doing a 30 minute soak in epsom salts, it wouldn't be that hard to add a 30 minute humidifier treatment at the same time. I do have some open storage in that room, but it would be fairly simple to put some plastic up to seal it off - so then I'd just have the tub/shower and floor to clean off afterwards.
     
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    Great idea. Do you recall what type of humidifier that was (evaporative, impeller or ultrasonic)? I read here http://www.ehow.com/info_12010499_put-salt-humidifier.html it is best done with the impeller or ultrasonic types.
     
  8. Hip

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    Mine is an ultrasonic humidifier. I don't think this would work with an evaporative humidifier, because the all salt would remain in the water reservoir: evaporated of water (ie, steam) does not carry any salt with it. But impeller or ultrasonic humidifiers create tiny droplets of water, not actual steam, which carry the salt in them. You can pick up an ultrasonic humidifier for as little as $20 on eBay.


    The main problem with my bedroom is that it also doubles as a study, with a desk, computer, books, etc. If I removed all these, it would be fine. I think it would just be books, paper and electronic items that might be affected by the salt dust. My bedroom floor is not carpeted, so there is no problem there.

    The other thing I thought of was to set up clear plastic tent over the top of the bed, and place the ultrasonic humidifier within this tent.
     
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  9. cigana

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    So I tried using salt in an ultrasonic diffuser for the past 3 days. I have had much better sleep than usual each of those 3 nights. Hard to believe it's just a coincidence!
     
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    one of the best things ive ever come across. got rid of 2 years of pleurisy in about 10 days with no side affects. a great immune system balancer. i made mine with stuff out of kitchen.

    i used salt water with one of those air domes; it caused mold on the wood on my bed. this is because, i think, that salt particles attract moisture so if they land somewhere then that point will become damp and possibly moldy.

    an open jar of coarse seasalt on a hot radiator will work or some coarse sea salt on a aromatherapy burner/hot plate. you don't need water to disperse it and i think its best avoided with salt. its why sea air rusts cars because there's moisture with it.
     
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    Hey that's great, cigana. Very encouraging. I might have to try ultrasonic humidifier salt therapy again myself. I only did it one night, because of the salt dust problem.

    How are you dealing with the fine layer of salt dust that settles on the furniture, etc?
     
  12. Hip

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    Very interesting. How long do you have to breathe through this salt pipe each day in order to get a therapeutic effect?

    And how did you make your own salt pipe?
     
  13. manna

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    @Hip officially, ive heard 5 minutes use 5 times a day, which is more than i need. thats better than say one 25 minute treatment. so a little often is better than alot at once. i'll edit this post with a pic and explanation on how i made mine. maybe in the next half hour if i can do it before i see my son. i tested it by filling a sock with coarse sea salt and breathing through that though the pipe is better to use

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    glass jar with plastic lid, not metal, it will rust. that is 6 mm reverse osmosis water filter tubing. the orange goes right to the bottom of the jar with the ends sealed. i put holes in the orange tubing, under the lid, using a pin--down the full length, about 50 in each. the blue tubes just poke through the lid. when i suck on the orange tube air is drawn through the blue ones into and through the salt and into the orange tube and into my lungs. breathing out through the nose ensures those passages are soothed too. this is highly negatively charged air that will soothe inflammation instantly by removing its positive charge. 3-4 puffs alone is a noticeable improvement on how your lungs feel. any construction q's feel free. basically air has to be drawn through salt somehow...coarse sea salt is of course required. i use himalayan pink as i might as well go posh huh...change the salt every 3 months
     
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    I have not experienced dust on furniture, but that may be because of a few differences in the way I did things. Firstly, I did not leave it on over night, I just turned it on for a around 5 30-minute sessions during the day. It sets off the smoke alarm so I can't use it overnight.

    I'm using this product: http://www.muji.eu/pages/page.asp?qpge=aroma
    It blows the mist in a jet, so it is easier to direct toward my face :) That way I get more intense but shorter duration therapeutic hits throughout the day. I have noticed a thin layer of dust on the surfaces very close to the machine itself, but not elsewhere in the room.
    I used a hygrometer to measure the increase in humidity in the room, which amounts to about an extra 2% for each 30-minute session (I did this because I was worried about mold growth). Perhaps leaving yours on overnight fills the room with too much salt...maybe a lower dose is effective but reduces the dust problem.

    I use a sea salt concentration of 2 teaspoons in 150ml of tap water.

    I've noticed in the past, albeit inconsistently, that high-salt meals before bed sometimes help me sleep. It could be simply that this is increasing my salt intake. But this feels more consistent, since it seems to have worked 3 nights in a row.
     
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    Great suggestion!

    That's what I will do: I'll just turn on the ultrasonic humidifier for 30 to 60 minutes before I go to bed, to fill the bedroom air with a salty atmosphere, and then I'll turn the humidifier off as I go to bed.

    As you say, you probably don't need the humidifier running all night.
     
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    Thanks for uploading that picture of your home made salt pipe, manna. That's a clever idea. It looks straightforward enough to make.
     
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    For some reason I read the thread title as "salt colon" instead of "salt cave". Then stared at @manna's photo for a while trying to figure out how it works :wide-eyed: :rofl:
     
  18. manna

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    yeah the floor, from the pic, needed sweeping mind :whistle: the mind boggles @valentinelynx lol i leave the imagining to you :confused:
    different results i should think. when i distill water i put two lumps of rock salt on the top of the heat removal fan and it fills the air with ooads of negative ions just like the seaside. lots of ways of doing it but if you want to heal the lungs at all, then only the pipe has it in the concentrations necessary. the fact you couldn't breath through the salt air pipe all day any way shows its much stronger than breathing it passively. the pipe has an immediate calming affect on your body that im sure would be too much if were done longer than an hour like the other methods can. although they say 2 maximum. i did for 2 and half hours one day. if felt mildly too much. that said the idea for the pipes came from the affect of the caves on people so a cave could be as powerfull as the pipe.

    once they've healed initially(lungs), if they need it, which made me very ill for 8 days...i was really bad actually, couldn't move..but then it was pleurisy and im pretty sure a heart sack infection too, was in a bad way, but after 8 days i was able to cough stuff up again for the first time in a couple of years, if not more. coughed it all up and now just when i need it or if i think it'll help with other things. my mum couldn't open the windows from hayfever till i got her one, she could go out after that. there pretty cool for the simplicity as well. so easy. they should put them on the noses of cows with tubercolosis

    these are quite strange, water air globes, put salt in them and it spins the water and seaside air fills the room. i think it energizes it somehow as it really wakes you up. but a bit strong for me and did create an overly humid environment and had mold on the wood under my bed. had to do the whole mattres, yeeesh) even my son and his mates were surprised with the water globe after he borrowed it in the summer...got disco lights on it too ;) they should put a mist trap on it. http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/e...ter-air-purifier-will-fight-haze-4265033.html
     
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    I wonder if that is why I feel better at the beach...interesting
     
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    I have just now come across machines called halogenerators (aka: dry saline generators) that are designed to produce the salty air of a salt cave. Examples of halogenerators are shown here and here. The price of some of these machines runs into $thousands. Yet my ultrasonic humidifier method for creating salty air costs just the price of the humidifier — around $20 or $30! I also came across this UK company selling 60 minute sessions sitting in their salt room for £35.

    By comparison, the ultrasonic humidifier approach to halogeneration is a much cheaper and much more straightforward means of saline air generation, and one that can be used at leisure in your own home.


    Edit: actually, I just found this $85 product which is a purpose-built ultrasonic halogenerator for halotherapy. This product appears to be basically just an ordinary ultrasonic humidifier in which you place a saline solution. So it's no different to the method I detailed above, involving placing a saline solution into regular $20 ultrasonic humidifier in order to create salt filled air.
     
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