Unknown PACE-trial advocate tries to block JHP issue dedicated to the trial

[Marco]

@Leopardtail
Where did you find something in the Grauniad? I emailed them cos I didn't think they had written anything.

The Graun are probably somewhat conflicted. Probably attracted by Coyne's neoliberal welfare cutting angle but aware that they've been a willing platform for Wessely and his protégé Goldacre (not to mention Gerada aka Lady Wessely) over the years.

Either that or their unpaid interns are earning their keep.

 

[Leopardtail]

@Leopardtail
Where did you find something in the Grauniad? I emailed them cos I didn't think they had written anything.

I didn't see anything in the NYT either.

I stored a copy of the NYT one on my hard disk somewhere. I can't seem to find either now, but will have a crack at finding them again tomorrow (hopefully with a sharper mind).

 

[Sbag]

@Leopardtail
Where did you find something in the Grauniad? I emailed them cos I didn't think they had written anything.

Guardian articles
May - https://www.theguardian.com/comment...me-is-real-when-will-health-services-catch-up

I thought there was a more recent one but can't find it

 

[Esther12]

Guardian articles
May - https://www.theguardian.com/comment...me-is-real-when-will-health-services-catch-up

I thought there was a more recent one but can't find it

Thanks. Yeah, I knew there'd been coverage in the past, I meant about this new story in the last week.

There was this in March from the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/opinion/sunday/getting-it-wrong-on-chronic-fatigue-syndrome.html

 

[Leopardtail]

Sorry for the wild goose chase folks. I had confused the older NY Times Article as relating to this and still can't find the Guardian one. I am guessing this was a brain fog issue. I have only been able to find the Times and Daily mail articles.

 

[Jonathan Edwards]

Sorry for the wild goose chase folks. I had confused the older Times Article as relating to this and still can't find the Guardian one. I am guessing this was a brain fog issue. I have only been able to find the Times and Daily mail articles.

There ought to be something else in the Mail soon, although one never knows.
Maybe the Grauniad may has been Goldacred.

 

[SamanthaJ]

There ought to be something else in the Mail soon, although one never knows.
Maybe the Grauniad may has been Goldacred.

Had been optimistically hoping the Guardian was just taking a long time to do a thorough investigation, but that hope has faded. If they aren't planning anything, they're assisting in a cover up and should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Binkie4]

The Guardian are regularly asking for donations to fund their online edition. I often muse about writing a comment that when they decide to report on a major unjust scandal of epic proportions ( Pace), then I might consider making such a donation. But then my energy runs out......musing is as far as it goes these days.

 

[Barry53]

... hoping the Guardian was just taking a long time to do a thorough investigation ...

I have the same thoughts re the BBC.

 

[Luther Blissett]

Way off topic, but if you have your hopes pinned on the Guardian upsetting the establishment, here's a story from a investigative journalist about what they did to him and colleague.

https://bristle.wordpress.com/2012/...vestigative-journalism-and-the-guardian-2001/

He is a well respected Journalist, who also worked for the well regarded World in Action. (Does anyone remember investigative current affairs programs?)

On the World in Action wiki page, He and his co-author are mentioned in the interesting second paragraph under the 'Journalists' heading.

 

[Leopardtail]

There ought to be something else in the Mail soon, although one never knows.
Maybe the Grauniad may has been Goldacred.

This is the one from the mail Jonathon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...lts-regarding-flawed-study.html#ixzz4oVLZUwAX

 

[Barry53]

This is the one from the mail Jonathon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...lts-regarding-flawed-study.html#ixzz4oVLZUwAX

@Jonathan Edwards said "something else". The above link is old news.

 

[Jonathan Edwards]

@Jonathan Edwards said "something else". The above link is old news.

Yes, I was expecting something towards the end of this week.

 

[Leopardtail]

Yes, I was expecting something towards the end of this week.

Wasn't sure how to interpret, waiting with baited breath.. LOL

 

[Jonathan Edwards]

Wasn't sure how to interpret, waiting with baited breath.. LOL

Laughing out loud with baited breath can be dangerous. I would recommend drinking a glass of cold water while standing on your head and counting to ninety nine. That should do it.

 

[RogerBlack]

Had been optimistically hoping the Guardian was just taking a long time to do a thorough investigation, but that hope has faded. If they aren't planning anything, they're assisting in a cover up and should be ashamed of themselves.

I'm reminded of https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/aug/21/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-myalgic-encephalomyelitis
Which is still doing damage, as it's being cited as a source on wikipedia and used to 'prove' the claims therein.

 

[Esther12]

I'm reminded of https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/aug/21/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-myalgic-encephalomyelitis
Which is still doing damage, as it's being cited as a source on wikipedia and used to 'prove' the claims therein.

NICE cited that as part of their reason to deny Tuller's request for the names of those assessing evidence.

 

[Hutan]

Wasn't sure how to interpret, waiting with baited breath.. LOL

Laughing out loud with baited breath can be dangerous.

Maybe @Leopardtail was sending you lots of love.
As do we all.

 

[Leopardtail]

Laughing out loud with baited breath can be dangerous. I would recommend drinking a glass of cold water while standing on your head and counting to ninety nine. That should do it.

 

[trishrhymes]