Unintended international spread of a family of retroviruses?


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Someone posted this on a UK ME list:



Ron Logan

ME / Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (inflammation of brain and spinal cord) patients (referred to as Chronic fatigue syndrome by some) have taken out an advert in the 6 December 2010 edition of the Washington Post following a recent ban on their donating blood by the International red Cross and various government bodies. The ad states:

New HIV-like Virus in the Blood Supply. Up to 20 Million Could Be Infected. FDA and NIH research recently uncovered a new family of retroviruses in 7% of healthy blood donor samples. This could mean that 20 million Americans are already infected. These viruses were also detected in an astonishing 87% of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome patient samples. Similar to HIV, this infection is likely to be transmitted through blood. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, also known as Myalgic Encephalomyelitis or ME/CFS, is a serious and sometimes fatal neuroimmune disease that can be as disabling as chemotherapy or late-stage AIDS. ME/CFS afflicts more than 1 million Americans.
See: http://bit.ly/dY5gxm

This action follows similar blood-donor bans for ME (CFS) patients by government health agencies in countries such as the UK following the publication of two peer-reviewed studies by different groups of researchers(1) that first made front-page headline news in October 2009(2). The international public should be very concerned at such developments because it may well transpire that, in-spite of being denigrated for nearly two decades as simply suffering from misplaced illness beliefs treatable by psychotherapy, ME (CFS) patients may in fact be suffering from a highly infectious disease that is similar to HIV/AIDS. In the UK, a two-decade long questionable establishment psychiatric campaign on ME (CFS) has been compounded by the alarming discovery: that Government has two sets of secret files on the disease that have been exempted from access under the freedom of information act for over 70 years(3). This is an extraordinary discovery. If ME is all in the mind then what have governments got to hide? Similar concerns regarding questionable government activities on ME (CFS) have also been widely expressed in the USA(4).

ME / Myalgic Encephalomyelitis has in fact been in the medical literature since the 1930s and was recognised as a physical disease by the World Health Organisation from 1969(5). It is a fact however that, from around the time of the global HIV/AIDS epidemics in the 1980s, the incidence of cases of ME (CFS) sky-rocketed to afflict millions worldwide. Elements of the establishment psychiatric lobby would have one believe that this increase was effectively due to mass hysteria but biomedical infectious agents such as enteroviruses and mycoplasmas have long since been associated with the disease. Nevertheless, the mainstream media largely collaborated with establishment psycho-trivialisation by using dismissive labels such as Yuppie-Flu and attention-seeking malingerers.

The arrival of an HIV-like retrovirus on the scene that disrupts immune function would make infected individuals more susceptible to co-infection and to develop illnesses like ME, MS, Lupus and even cancers. Such retroviruses have now been found in ME (CFS) patients in the UK, Belgium, Spain and from residents of other countries as well as the USA. The question is, where did such retroviruses come from and how were they spread so rapidly? Perhaps, just perhaps, one clue can be found in another peer-reviewed scientific paper entitled Unintended spread of a biosafety level 2 recombinant retrovirus.(6) Two quotes from this paper, for example, cause concern:

We decided to further analyze the genomic sequence of the MuLV-like contaminant virus. Surprisingly it showed 99% identity to a synthetic retrovirus which was engineered in the 1980s.

The present report extends these studies by identifying for the first time a presumably synthetic chimeric retrovirus as a contaminant. This gene-modified organism seems to have replicated and spread intensely in a broad set of cell lines for several years without being noticed. This hybrid amphotropic/Moloney murine leukemia virus was engineered in the 1980s and neither the virus itself nor the plasmid (pAMS) containing its proviral genome were ever used in our laboratory. Although the precise source for the contamination could not be traced back, sharing cell lines with other laboratories seems the most likely explanation.

The initial concern of these authors is contamination of their own laboratory experiments but, alas, it is not only laboratories that can be contaminated with retroviruses that were engineered in the 1980s, many members of the international public could have met with a similar contaminatory fate. It is early days to say conclusively what has actually happened but that something very extraordinary may have in fact happened to millions of ME patients and has put international blood supplies at risk looks increasingly likely.

Sudden international epidemics of illness coupled with secret establishment files on the matter along with assertions that all can be managed with psychotherapies, such as happened with ME (CFS) from the 1980s, ought to ring loud alarm bells within the public at large. There is something very odd going on and it has the whiff of international scandal about it.

In the UK, the establishment psychiatric Lobby has become known as The Wessely School, after leading proponent Professor Simon Wessely of the Institute of Psychiatry in London. In spite of thousands of biomedical studies to the contrary(7), Wessely famously asserted that ME is simply a belief, the belief that one has an illness called ME in his address entitled Microbes, Mental illness, the Media and ME: the Construction of Disease delivered to the 9th Eliot Slater Memorial Lecture, 12th May 1994(8). It is noteworthy that in 1934, Elliot Slater was awarded a Rockefeller Foundation travelling fellowship, which he used to study psychiatric genetics under Bruno Schulz at the Forschungsanstalt fr Psychiatrie (Psychiatric Research Institute) in Munich. Although it would be wrong to associate Slater with all things in Nazi Germany he was, without question, a leading Eugenicist in his day and vice-president (1963-6) of the (British) Eugenics Society(9). Eugenics pseudo-science did not begin with Nazi Germany and neither did it end with the demise of the criminal third reich.

There is a famous quote attributed to Pastor Martin Niemller (18921984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group: First they came for the Communists, and I didnt speak up because I wasnt a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didnt speak up because I wasnt a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didnt speak up because I wasnt a Jew. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up. Call them conspiracy theorists if you must, but there are more than a few ME patients who wonder if the pseudo-science that is eugenics is again on the rise and if and when the history of such a resurgence is written a new version of Niemllers saying will be appropriate as follows: First they came for the AIDS patients, then they came for the ME patients, then for old people and then for Conjecture at this point in time I grant you but one thing is absolutely certain. Now that the emergency-room blood supplies are at risk, no-one can afford to ignore the plight of persecuted, denigrated and officially maligned ME patients any longer. You have been warned.

Ron Logan.
5 December 2010
(Please publish this article on websites).


(1) Detection of an Infectious Retrovirus, XMRV, in Blood Cells of Patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Mikovits & Lombardi et al. Science. 2009, 326:585-589. At:
Detection of MLV-related virus gene sequences in blood of patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and healthy blood donors. Lo & Alter & et al, PNAS, August 2010. Doi: 10.1073/pnas.1006901107. At:

(2) The Independent (UK) newspaper article by Steve Connor, Science Editor, 9 October 2009 Has Science Found the Cause of ME? Available online at:
And see The Independent, 9 October 2009, editorial article entitled: Chronic Neglect at:

(3) See the article entitled CORPORATE COLLUSION by Professor Malcolm Hooper, Eileen Marshall & Margaret Williams at:
And see: http://tinyurl.com/yfdt8gm http://tinyurl.com/2w9gs8z http://tinyurl.com/32fczyu

(4) See for example the Hillary Johnson / Oslers Web website at:

(5) Currently listed by the WHO in the 10th revision of the International Classification of Diseases at section G93.3 (ICD 10 G93.3) but establishment psychiatrists are strongly lobbying to have the WHO recategorise the disease as a mental/behavioural syndrome in spite of a large and growing body of biomedical evidence countering such mis-labelling (see for example note 8 below).

(6) Unintended spread of a biosafety level 2 recombinant retrovirus. Klaus berla et al.
Retrovirology 2009, 6:86doi:10.1186/1742-4690-6-86
Department of Molecular and Medical Virology, Ruhr-University Bochum, D-44780 Bochum, Germany; Department of Neuroanatomy and Molecular Brain Research, Ruhr-University Bochum, D-44780 Bochum, Germany; Medical Proteome Center, Ruhr-University Bochum, D-44780 Bochum, Germany. The electronic version of this peer-reviewed article is the complete one and can be found online at:

(7) there are now over 4,000 published studies that show underlying biomedical abnormalities in patients with this illness. Its not an illness that people can simply imagine that they have and its not a psychological illness. In my view, that debate, which has waged for 20 years, should now be over
Professor Anthony Komaroff of Harvard Medical School Speaking at the USA Government CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) press conference on 3 November 2006:

(8) See: http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/WARNING_UK_PM_strategy.htm

(9) See for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Slater

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Thanks for posting Dasiymay - like opening up Pandora's Box more and more. Gosh it will be good when those who really know finally put the mumbo jumboists out.
great post Daisymay. It is safe to say the "cat is out of the bag" meaning, there is no way any reasonable scientist could dispute the fact there is terrible wrong doing on teh part ob big business and governments(newspapers and countires governments working in concert to conceal and deceive the public).

Also, the way information spreads so fast these days, there is no way the governments and big busines can keep this schennigan ponzi scheme going any longer. They can control some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time, or however that goes...


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Sleepy Hollow Canada
exciting to see the momentum building. Hopefully the general public will see all these recent articles and ask some questions. That's when the research money will start pouring in.