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Superficial sleep as a side effect of CBD oil

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From time to time I take CBD oil, which improves my mental state. But because of this, my nighttime sleep worsens: it is difficult to fall asleep, and sleep becomes shallow. Has anyone managed to eliminate this side effect with any medicine?
 

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Drinking at least 4 oz of tart cherry juice at least 2 hours before bedtime greatly improved my sleep efficiency and quality.

Please note, I was using three parts CBD oil to one part THC via vaping, as well.

Prior to my starting this ritual during April of 2018, I hadn't had any restful sleep for over seven years, excepting perhaps a dozen random occasions, and I never once slept straight through the night... nor had I been able to take a nap during the daylight hours.

So the first 90 days using this combination, I slept straight through the night approximately 25 times, while also feeling rested and far less fatigued every single night I was able to put together at least 6 hours of total sleep.

Since January, I had to temporarily give up on both items. Even so, my sleep is now far better overall and I mostly wake up feeling refreshed most of the time.

Also, I believe the tart cherry juice has had a more positive impact overall. As I vaguely understand it, the cherry juice encourages the production or utilization of tryptophan or serotonin (I don't recall which).

Yes, I have a mental block. :)
 

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Has anyone managed to eliminate this side effect with any medicine?
Sleep spesialist Matthew Walker has mentioned that cannabis is blocking REM-sleep.
I sometimes use a THC/CBD spray (50:50 ratio) to deepen my sleep. It's only when I use a mix with THC that I get deeper sleep, but it's dreamless. Adding a little melatonin helps me to dream again along with the deeper sleep so I assume the melatonin is increasing my REM sleep stage(s).
 
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@PatJ, what form of melatonin do you take? Do you feel sleepy the next morning because of it? Is tolerance developing over time?
 
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what form of melatonin do you take? Do you feel sleepy the next morning because of it? Is tolerance developing over time?
I've tried two kinds of melatonin: one is Natrol long acting, the other is a liquid. Only the long acting keeps me asleep reasonably well if I take it by itself, so if I use the liquid then I also need to take either the THC/CBD mix, or Dr. Christopher's Relax-eze. They both complement the melatonin and lead to a better night of sleep. I also take LDN every night so that helps as well.

I have sometimes felt a little groggy in the morning from the melatonin, but not usually. I think it has happened at the times when I forgot to shake the bottle of liquid melatonin before filling the dropper.

I try to rotate my sleep supplements to avoid a tolerance developing. But, I've also taken melatonin for long periods in the past and don't remember a tolerance developing.