Streptococcus overgrowth

[maryb]

Good practice for the lab to recommend stuff. the clinic is the one I was looking at for mercury chelation, very few in the UK offer DMSA/EDTA etc. I may well still end up there once my last 2 amalgams are out

 

[gregh286]

yes done that too. had 8 alamgrams replaced last 2 weeks. done dmsa on friday.
good for.lab to recommend stuff. helps remove the doubts.

 

[knackers323]

What uva brand you use? Sounds like you might be in the right track if your getting some die off?

You get a herx or anything from the garlic?

 

[gregh286]

a.vogel tinture drops.
never had a herx before with anything.
must have tried 100 supplements.

 

[maryb]

@gregh286
wow that was a lot, hope you didn't have them all out in one go.
How did you take the DMSA, I looked at suppositories earlier on this year. don't fancy the IV or oral.

 

[gregh286]

hi
I had 4 then 4. its nothing compared to fatigue I have. I could have done 10 in one go no problem.
dmsa was 6 oral tablets. collect.pee next 4.hours and then send sample to lab.

cheers greg

 

[gregh286]

just took some baking soda about a tablespoon in a pint of water.
crazy diahoerrea. I see elp takes it and wondered does anyone else get a horrific bowel reaction from it.
im taking it as a positive. we can all live in hope.☺

 

[maryb]

Tablespoon is a lot, I take a tsp at most. Absolutely nothing gives me diarrhoea!!!!

 

[gregh286]

oops or poops.
maybe a teaspoon was the right dose.
ah well nothing like a sore bum sunday.

 

[knackers323]

@gregh286 you get any die off from garlic?

 

[gregh286]

hi knackers.
no never but maybe I didnt take enough.
what dosage are you suggesting.

 

[knackers323]

I've heard anywhere up to 15 cloves per day. What dose have you tried?

 

[gregh286]

hi,
just 2-3 tablets a day, nothing too severe.

 

[maryb]

@gregh286
I'm seeing a dentist next week re my last 2 amalgams, can you tell me what your chelation programme is. My understanding is that any mercury released stays in the bloodstream for some time before it is dumped into tissues?

 

[gregh286]

hi,
just make sure they use rubber dam.
chelation is ozone therapy combing with chelation nutrients. High dose chlorella/spirinla (12 gram day), selenium and NAC (cystine)

 

[maryb]

Oh I've sacked the rubber dams!!!! I'm seeing one who does the full mouth wrap and sedation. I've got so ill after each removal over the past 3 yrs despite the dentist being one of the 'top' specialists, dam, separate air supply, clothes/face covers etc.. Still so much worse with mercury symptoms.
So you're not having the EDTA chelation?
Did you mention DMSO, I looked at suppositories as I don't do well on orals.

 

[gregh286]

hi,
sorry, yes I had a batch of DMSA tablets too.
No, not having EDTA.
I dont believe metals is a large component of my CFS, i think its the strepoccus and ersinina overgrowth. I am focused on these 2.

 

[maryb]

Thanks

 

[knackers323]

hi,
just 2-3 tablets a day, nothing too severe.

Unless it is freeze dried I don't think garlic tablets work like raw garlic

 

[MeSci]

just took some baking soda about a tablespoon in a pint of water.
crazy diahoerrea. I see elp takes it and wondered does anyone else get a horrific bowel reaction from it.
im taking it as a positive. we can all live in hope.☺

You may tolerate it better if you take it in stages rather than in one dose. This is some info I found and which I follow:

from http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a682001.html

If you are using sodium bicarbonate as an antacid, it should be taken 1 to 2 hours after meals, with a full glass of water. If you are using sodium bicarbonate for another reason, it may be taken with or without food. Do not take sodium bicarbonate on an overly full stomach.

I take 2 teaspoonfuls a day, in less water than recommended (about half a pint for the day), in 4 doses a while after meals. I have no problems with it.