Some concerns about homeopathy

[Hajnalka]

The horror!

Haha, sorry, really hate to fulfill the stereotypes in this thread! Not going to waste the perfectly good water though.

 

[A.B.]

You guys got it all wrong with your homeopathy jokes. If the potency of a homeopathic remedy increases with dilution, then infinite potency can be achieved by not adding the ingredient in the first place.

PS: 0 x INFINITY is of course still 0. I think at least.

 

[Wonko]

Haha, sorry, really hate to fulfill the stereotypes in this thread! Not going to waste the perfectly good water though.

Are you sure it's water and not homeopathic beer?

 

[Mrs Sowester]

Are you sure it's water and not homeopathic beer?

Careful now, that's potent stuff.

 

[TiredSam]

No joke: My German mother just brought me homeopathic pills already dissolved in water, while I was reading this thread.

I hope she hasn't slipped something in it.

 

[HowToEscape?]

Why not test it by giving an entire city homeopathic water?

1. Strap the king James Bible to a wrench.
2. Bang on the main water pipe into town.

All ailments now cured!


The water will at some point in Earth's history have been in contact with every imaginable element and compound, and remember them. Thus it contains every possible homeopathic remedy, including those not yet discovered.

Therefore it will cure every possible disease, including those not yet discovered, in the population of people who have not sinned by harming their body with bad thoughts, Big Pharma, or lite beer. Anyone remaining sick is thus a sinner and must be punished.

What, you object? A witch! Vexatious!

 

[Wonko]

To be fair, the evidence for homeopathy is so diluted by all the evidence against it that it must work, the more evidence against it, the more dilute, the more powerful homeopathy becomes.

It can't not be true, because the more it isn't, the more it is.

Or something like that, my brain doesn't seem to be up to twisty things ATM.

 

[snowathlete]

... your mother?

 

[TiredSam]

Just to be clear: I don't feel any ill-will to other patients who are using homeopathy. I don't feel smug about the fact that they're doing something that I think it ridiculous. I've done lots of things that I now realise were ridiculous, and I'm grateful to the people who pointed out when I was making mistakes. I think that for a healthy intellectual community we all need to be trying to pick apart one anothers' claims and beliefs in the hope of improving ourselves and getting close to the truth. Best wishes to everyone.

Thanks for starting this thread @Esther12 . 10 pages later, we have all indeed improved ourselves and are closer to the truth. I hope the results meet with your approval. Very best wishes to your good self.

 

[Mrs Sowester]

To be fair, the evidence for homeopathy is so diluted by all the evidence against it that it must work, the more evidence against it, the more dilute, the more powerful homeopathy becomes.

It can't not be true, because the more it isn't, the more it is.

Well, that's me convinced. You are my new favourite logician.

 

[alex3619]

Or my chakras are misaligned due to my total inability to take this topic seriously.

The first two pseudoscientific theories as to the cause of ME I ever ran into were about meridians and chakras. That was probably in the late 80s and early 90s.

 

[TiredSam]

Well, that's me convinced. You are my new favourite logician.

I am 1 part in 1×1024 convinced.

So my faith in homeopathy should be unshakeable by now. Unfortunately it isn't, so I must have done something wrong. I'll try refusing to believe homeopathic claims a bit more, maybe that'll help.

 

[Mrs Sowester]

The first two pseudoscientific theories as to the cause of ME I ever ran into were about meridians and chakras. That was probably in the late 80s and early 90s.

That's one of my favourites. Apparently I'd be all better by now if I'd let a friend of a friend perform reiki over me to realign my chakras thus restoring the flow of my chi energy.

Edited to add, so it is my fault.

 

[Mrs Sowester]

So my faith in homeopathy should be unshakeable by now. Unfortunately it isn't, so I must have done something wrong

Don't worry TiredSam that'll probably be my fault too.

 

[Esther12]

Thanks for starting this thread @Esther12 . 10 pages later, we have all indeed improved ourselves and are closer to the truth. I hope the results meet with your approval. Very best wishes to your good self.

Thanks Sam. It's made me feel like a hit & run poster. I got up in the morning and there was already five pages of discussions to catch up on! There is a bit of a conflict between my desire to engage in relentless debate, and my desire to do as little reading as possible.

 

[TiredSam]

Don't worry TiredSam that'll probably be my fault too.

Well I didn't like to mention it but seeing as you have, there are some very negative vibes emanating from that potting shed that can be felt as far afield as Germany. It's ruining the homeopathy trade here.

 

[Sushi]

The discussion on the moderation of this thread has been moved to the Moderation section, so as not to derail this thread.

 

[alex3619]

I am 1 part in 1×1024 convinced.

Oh that must be a very powerful conviction then.

 

[alex3619]

pparently I'd be all better by now if I'd let a friend of a friend

I did that once. The wife of a friend of mine does essential oil therapy. Aside from smelling nice it was a waste of effort.

 

[IreneF]

What a brilliant idea - set up as a homeopathist and put medicine in the bottles

Why didn't I think of that?

If you read the FDA site you find that many "herbal Viagra" and similar remedies contain actual Viagra when tested. And that muscle building concoctions contain steroids.