SIBO treatment

[Cloudyskies]

Do any of you have or had SIBO and found success with a treatment protocol?

I just tried and failed at taking the gold standard antibiotic, Rifaximin, as the side effects proved too harsh for me. Considering what to try next.

Any thoughts or personal experiences you want to share?

 

[Carl]

Be aware that any antimicrobials that you take will make the pathogens which are causing your CFS/ME/Fibro more resistant. That will reduce the number of antimicrobial choices that can be used to destroy them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030608/
The same goes for any herbal treatments.
Your stomach is where the problems lie because if that was working normally, stomach acid would destroy bacteria before they reached your small intestine because that is how it is meant to function.

Investigate urease enzyme because chances are that might be what is contributing to the problem(s).

 

[Zebra]

Hi, @Cloudyskies

I did a quick search on PR for threads that include "SIBO". There are many to choose from, but here's one I thought might be of interest to you.

https://forums.phoenixrising.me/threads/sibo-treatment-resource-guide.83656/

 

[Cloudyskies]

Thanks, @Zebra. I appreciate this.

 

[Cloudyskies]

Be aware that any antimicrobials that you take will make the pathogens which are causing your CFS/ME/Fibro more resistant. That will reduce the number of antimicrobial choices that can be used to destroy them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030608/
The same goes for any herbal treatments.
Your stomach is where the problems lie because if that was working normally, stomach acid would destroy bacteria before they reached your small intestine because that is how it is meant to function.

Investigate urease enzyme because chances are that might be what is contributing to the problem(s).

This is good info. Thank you, @Carl.

 

[Pyrrhus]

You may also be interested in this discussion:

Is SIBO caused by dysautonomic gastrointestinal motility?
https://forums.phoenixrising.me/thr...dysautonomic-gastrointestinal-motility.81362/

 

[Cloudyskies]

Wow, thank you for this.

 

[Wayne]

Received the following email, and I plan to watch the presentations on SIBO at no charge next week. Thought I'd post the details here in case anybody else might be interested. The woman hosting this claims to have made a complete recovery from SIBO after many years of suffering. -- Best to All...

For many people, the SIBO (Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth) journey goes like this:​

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1. Get diagnosed​

2. Get treated​

3. Feel... not that much better​

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No - you're NOT the only one having this experience!​

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Research suggests as many as 2/3 of people with SIBO will either not respond to their first treatment, require multiple rounds of treatment, or relapse. ​

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And that doesn't even take into account the people who test negative for SIBO, but still have all the symptoms (yes, this happens, too) or abandon treatment when it doesn't seem to be working.​

If you fall into any of these categories - or are dealing with any other stubborn SIBO symptoms, you might just be a "tough case."​

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If you're one of these tough cases, this is your next step, register here.​

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Host of the Next Steps for Treating Tough SIBO Summit​

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[Rufous McKinney]

Thank you @Wayne!

Wow, this is perfect timing

I've been experiencing some additional stress, having pit of the stomach queasiness, and far too much bloating and SIBO-type activity. All got exacerbated by a bout of Dengue Fever (hello, new. virus)

Biomagnets, b-caryophyllene, and some mysterious THC/topical oil.....I:"ve applied to my "stomach" topically has helped. Resting, also.

Recently, it seems to be QUITE a bit better from possibly eating very well cooked black beans and a lentil stew.

I"m surprised its this calm.

Your stomach is where the problems lie because if that was working normally, stomach acid would destroy bacteria before they reached your small intestine because that is how it is meant to function.

I think I did not grasp this.

so how do we absorb probiotics? if everything is killed?

 

[Rufous McKinney]

BUMP THIS ANNOUNCEMENT

 

[Rufous McKinney]

Register today - it's F-R-E-E!! (And as soon as you register, we'll give you early access to 2 of the classes!)>>> SIGNUP for the Next Steps for Treating Tough SIBO Summit

I haven;t figured out where this is located yet...anybody else know how to find the videos?

 

[MaximilianKohler]

I just tried and failed at taking the gold standard antibiotic, Rifaximin, as the side effects proved too harsh for me.

Yep. Antibiotics are rarely the right solution, and the longstanding practice of using them to continually kill things off has likely played a major role the chronic disease crisis. The gut microbiome is an extremely complex ecosystem that can't be fixed by continually killing things off. https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/...or-specific-microbes-and-pre-treatment-e.148/

The scientific literature on Rifaximin is extremely flawed, and it had severe consequences for me and many others: https://humanmicrobiome.info/sibo/#sibo-treatment

You can see in the last link that SIBO itself is a very questionable diagnosis.

 

[Wayne]

I haven;t figured out where this is located yet...anybody else know how to find the videos?

Hi @Rufous McKinney -- I just started watching the videos. Click on the link below, and then there will be a link on the lower right that says, Save Your Free Seat", which involves entering your name and email address.

There's a large number of videos to watch, and that will apparently be available for the next 48 hours. It will be a lot of watching, but it looks like there will be lots of good information to glean from them.

SIGNUP for the Next Steps for Treating Tough SIBO Summit

 

[Wayne]

Thought I'd paste the video topics below:
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CLICK HERE TO START WATCHING NOW​

DAY 1 - November 8, 2023 at 11am EST (24 hour viewing period)

1. SIBO Overview & Orientation with Dr. Allison Siebecker, ND, MSOM, LAc
2. Finding Your Underlying Cause of SIBO with Dr. Allison Siebecker, ND, MSOM, LAc
3. Essential SIBO Treatment & Prevention with Dr. Allison Siebecker, ND, MSOM, LAc
4. How Dynamic Neural Retraining Systems Can Help SIBO with Annie Hopper
5. Neural Therapy: An Unexpected Solution for SIBO with Dr. Anne Hill, ND
6. Electrical Stimulation (Sine Wave) & Myofascial Release with Neural Therapy for SIBO with Dr. Heidi Petersen, ND
7. Using Hypnotherapy to Treat IBS and SIBO (Yes, Really!) with Dr. Peter Whorwell, MD
8. Non-Surgical Adhesion Resolution with Larry Wurn, LMT
9. How the 3 Categories of Probiotics Can Help SIBO with Dr. Michael Ruscio, DC
10. Serum Bovine Immunoglobulin (IgG) for SIBO with Dr. Leonard Weinstock, ND
11. Peptides for SIBO with Dr. Farshid Sam Rahbar, MD
12. Frequency Specific Microcurrent, Neural Therapy, and Functional Immunology with Dr. David Musnick, MD
13. Post-biotics for SIBO/IMO and IBS Support with Dr. Andrea McBeth, ND
14. FAQ: Histamine and SIBO with Dr. Mona Morstein, ND

DAY 2 - November 9, 2023 at 11am EST (24 hour viewing period)

1. Understanding & Applying the SIBO Diet with Dr. Allison Siebecker, ND, MSOM, LAc
2. Preventing SIBO Relapse with Prokinetics with Dr. Allison Siebecker, ND, MSOM, LAc
3. Frequency Specific Microcurrent for SIBO with Dr. Carol McMakin, DC
4. How Brain Retraining Can Help SIBO with Ashok Gupta
5. Using Low Dose Immunotherapy for SIBO with Dr.Bryan Rade, ND
6. Craniosacral Therapy for IBS & SIBO” with Dr. Anne Hill, ND
7. Using Neural Therapy for Complex GastrointestinaI Cases with Dr. Ilana Gurevich, ND
8. Clinical Pearls for Using Prebiotics for SIBO with Dr. Nirala Jacobi, ND
9. Emotional Freedom Technique (aka Tapping) for SIBO with Dr. Steven Sandberg-Lewis, ND
10. New Ways to Treat Biofilms in SIBO with Bismuth-Thiol Complexes with Dr. Paul Anderson, NMD
11. Immunoglobulin G (SBI) Therapy for SIBO with Dr. Michael Ruscio, DC
12. The Role of Peptides in SIBO Treatment with Dr. Margaret Christensen, MD
13. FAQ: Vitamin B12 and SIBO with Dr. Mona Morstein, ND
14. FAQ: Iron and SIBO with Dr. Mona Morstein, ND

 

[Rufous McKinney]

I signed up already but nothing ever came to my email.

I probably can't watch more than two videos so I may have to figure out another route to find this info.

 

[godlovesatrier]

Hi guys,

After having had strange intestinal symptoms the last 4 to 6 weeks which I think may have been sibo - it seemed to get wosre with vivomixx and worse with inulin the one and only thing that helped without cauisng me to feel ten times worse was tudca, I only took it for about four or five days but my digestion has resolved, gas production has stopped.

If you read up about tudca it differentially kills off a wide variety of good and bad bacteria, some are resistant to bile acids some are not. So I believe that is how it helped, I definitely think it's worth trying as sibo is a real pain to treat.

Also low stomach acid might actually just be poor bile acid secretion.