Daffodil
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hi 5150. how interesting. I thought that was a "safe" food. perhaps I can try buckwheat...kasha(?). I started making quinoa salads because i was looking for breakfast alternatives.
i have been eating quinoa the last few days and notice a lot of inflammation. i feel awful. i cannot say for sure it is from the quinoa but i have a feeling. i have never really eaten it before this.
What sort of diet do you think we should be eating if we have a leaky gut? No matter what herbal supplements I take I cannot get the bad bugs under control of a tendancy to a yeast issue even though I don't eat things like sugar or bread/rice.Hi Daffodil,
Quinoa is 64% starch (sugar) it therefore feeds sugar fermenting bugs in your gut (increases inflammation) which increases lactic acid production (causing acidosis) and further contributes to 'leaky gut' ...
Good food for bad bugs .... not good for ME sufferers ....
Cheers.
Hi Daffodil,
Quinoa is 64% starch (sugar) it therefore feeds sugar fermenting bugs in your gut (increases inflammation) which increases lactic acid production (causing acidosis) and further contributes to 'leaky gut' ...
Good food for bad bugs .... not good for ME sufferers ....
Cheers.
Thanks, Elph68...are there any starches one can eat? buckwheat? I eat a lot of rice and it doesn't seem to make me sicker..i don't think,anyway...
What sort of diet do you think we should be eating if we have a leaky gut? No matter what herbal supplements I take I cannot get the bad bugs under control of a tendancy to a yeast issue even though I don't eat things like sugar or bread/rice.
Thanks
Pam
But when I eat grass fed meat and animal fat I get more nasal congestion. It is even worse with fish and especially eggs. From my research nasal inflammation means inflammed blood vessels. So with this grass fed meat diet I had more inflammation. I tried this meat, meat fat and fish diet with no grains, no fruit, no dairy and a few non starchy vegetables for over 6 months. I had difficult bowel movements with very hard bloody stools with also what appeared to be undigested fat. Sometimes I was eating grass fed meat and fat 3 times a day with no vegetables. I didn't add any soluble fiber though which probably would have helped. Anyway, I get no noticeable nasal inflammation from non-starchy vegetables and blueberries (but a blueberries only meal causes me to urinate frequently, so I guess that can't be good either). I also notice nasal inflammation usually with starchy vegetables, winter squash and most nuts and seeds. Also the starchy vegetables and winter squash would make my teeth hurt. My diet now is mostly non-starchy steamed vegetable meals (cabbage, asparagus, artichoke, green beans,etc), sprouted flax seed meal or raw walnut butter with romaine lettuce or raw cabbage or raw celery. I also eat raw zuchinni (sometimes steamed) meals and separately raw sunflower green meals. Although I don't really feel any better at least I have less nasal inflammation and no more constipated bloody stools.Hi Pam,
To have yeast, you are still consuming fermentable carbohydrates (sugars).... I am only eating meat, fish, eggs, animal/vegetable fat and soluble fiber .... No dairy, grains, fruit, vegetables, sugars .... nothing at all that contains any carbohydrates .... I will start adding them back very gradually in a couple of months ....
The body functions very well on a fat based diet .... we did it for a very long time before we become civilized ....
Cheers,
Darren.
But when I eat grass fed meat and animal fat I get more nasal congestion. It is even worse with fish and especially eggs. From my research nasal inflammation means inflammed blood vessels. So with this grass fed meat diet I had more inflammation. I tried this meat, meat fat and fish diet with no grains, no fruit, no dairy and a few non starchy vegetables for over 6 months. I had difficult bowel movements with very hard bloody stools with also what appeared to be undigested fat. Sometimes I was eating grass fed meat and fat 3 times a day with no vegetables. I didn't add any soluble fiber though which probably would have helped. Anyway, I get no noticeable nasal inflammation from non-starchy vegetables and blueberries (but a blueberries only meal causes me to urinate frequently, so I guess that can't be good either). I also notice nasal inflammation usually with starchy vegetables, winter squash and most nuts and seeds. Also the starchy vegetables and winter squash would make my teeth hurt. My diet now is mostly non-starchy steamed vegetable meals (cabbage, asparagus, artichoke, green beans,etc), sprouted flax seed meal or raw walnut butter with romaine lettuce or raw cabbage or raw celery. I also eat raw zuchinni (sometimes steamed) meals and separately raw sunflower green meals. Although I don't really feel any better at least I have less nasal inflammation and no more constipated bloody stools.
thanks for your reply Elph68,Hi Tyson,
if anybody ever tells you that you don't have a gut flora problem .... I know what I would say to them ....
Have you ever had a proper parasite test or stool test done??
Get a stool analysis, and get onto the centre of digestive diseases in Sydney and ask them to fix your gut ...... They will do it by phone initially ....
Cheers.
thanks for your reply Elph68,
I have had about 4 stool anaysis. Do I have to get a stool analysis done by them or can I send them my most recent one (metametrix dna profile 12/12/12) for them to look at? "They will do it by phone initially" does that mean they would look at my stool analysis and prescribe what i need or tell me what i need without me having to go to Sydney. At the moment I am trying to get an appointment with Dr DeMeirleir in Reno, but I would be very interested with trying to get the centre of digestive diseases in Sydney to help me if I can do everything over the phone.
Hi Daffodil,thanks elph
but doesnt one need carbohydrates to some extent?? won't eating a lot of protein and fat just ruin your kidneys and give you kidney stones??
maybe the ideal diet is A LOT of vegetables...a little bit of meat...and a tiny tiny bit of carbs?
not sure if i could even follow a diet like that yet...its already a full time job for me to keep the diet i am on
thanks for your reply Elph68,
I have had about 4 stool anaysis. Do I have to get a stool analysis done by them or can I send them my most recent one (metametrix dna profile 12/12/12) for them to look at? "They will do it by phone initially" does that mean they would look at my stool analysis and prescribe what i need or tell me what i need without me having to go to Sydney. At the moment I am trying to get an appointment with Dr DeMeirleir in Reno, but I would be very interested with trying to get the centre of digestive diseases in Sydney to help me if I can do everything over the phone.