Reverse Mitochondrial Damage 101
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What do you guys reckon to this NT factor supp...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nutricology...TF8&colid=378U5W4JJMVX1&coliid=I292AJY1O8L63F
It's a lot cheaper than the powder and has a greater variety of stuff in the Radio talks about such as B-vits and other mito support.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nutricology...TF8&colid=378U5W4JJMVX1&coliid=I292AJY1O8L63F
It's a lot cheaper than the powder and has a greater variety of stuff in the Radio talks about such as B-vits and other mito support.
@Radio I have been taking 3 scoops (= 3 x 1.4 grams) daily of the NT Factor EnergyLipids Powder for three days now.
On the second day, although my sleep was a little restless, on waking up I noticed some general improvements from the NT Factor: I felt more calm, more content, and I felt like I was moving away from the ME/CFS of mind, and towards the normal state of mind I used to have before I developed ME/CFS. I felt more sociable and talkative than usual, for one thing, and my sound sensitivity was much reduced. So I was quite optimistic that NT Factor was already working.
However, on waking up on the third day (today) of taking NT factor, I felt much worse than normal: I felt an increased in mental numbness, and I felt pretty "spaced out" and unable to focus well mentally. Furthermore, my sound sensitivity and general sensitivity to stimuli were increased, and I found sounds and visual stimuli sort of strangely jolted my mind in a mildly perturbing manner, in a way that reminded me a bit of the anxiety psychosis states I used to get several years ago. I also felt much less sociable. I generally was in an unpleasant and weird state.
So all the gains I made on the second day were reversed by the third day.
After going for a brisk walk today, things improved a bit.
Did you get any bad days like this when you first started taking NT Factor? Did you get these "spaced out" and mental numbness states?
On the second day, although my sleep was a little restless, on waking up I noticed some general improvements from the NT Factor: I felt more calm, more content, and I felt like I was moving away from the ME/CFS of mind, and towards the normal state of mind I used to have before I developed ME/CFS. I felt more sociable and talkative than usual, for one thing, and my sound sensitivity was much reduced. So I was quite optimistic that NT Factor was already working.
However, on waking up on the third day (today) of taking NT factor, I felt much worse than normal: I felt an increased in mental numbness, and I felt pretty "spaced out" and unable to focus well mentally. Furthermore, my sound sensitivity and general sensitivity to stimuli were increased, and I found sounds and visual stimuli sort of strangely jolted my mind in a mildly perturbing manner, in a way that reminded me a bit of the anxiety psychosis states I used to get several years ago. I also felt much less sociable. I generally was in an unpleasant and weird state.
So all the gains I made on the second day were reversed by the third day.
After going for a brisk walk today, things improved a bit.
Did you get any bad days like this when you first started taking NT Factor? Did you get these "spaced out" and mental numbness states?
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Mitochondria Recovery Protocol 4 / 1 / 14
Radio: These are the supplements I'm using for lipid therapy and mitochondrial support.
Nt Factors™ Energy Lipid Powder 150 Grams
PureFormulas $44.15
Amazon price US $47.76
iHerb are charging $70.66
BodyBio PC $61.44
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001169CF6...=UTF8&colid=STE6K5DNMJYK&coliid=IJ444PD8I5XBI
Enzymatic Therapy, B12 Infusion, Energy
http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-B12-Infusion-Energy-30-Chewable-Tablets/2119#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=b12 methylcobalamin&rc=446&sr=null&ic=15
Joint Pain Relief 24/7 Topical D-Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin Sulfate Patches
http://www.amazon.com/Topical-D-Glucosamine-Sulfate-Chondroitin-Patches/dp/B00G4EBZAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396313249&sr=8-1&keywords=sulfate patches
Pure Encapsulations, O.N.E Multivitamin ( http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Encapsula...min-With-Metafolin-L-5-MTHF-60-Capsules/52461 ) $32.20
Life Extension, Pantothenic Acid Vitamin B-5, 500 mg $7.88
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Pantothenic-Acid-Vitamin-B-5-500-mg-100-Capsules/4902#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=vitamin b 5&rc=9957&sr=null&ic=1
Source Naturals, Coenzymated B-3, Sublingual, 25 mg $13.16
http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Coenzymated-B-3-Sublingual-25-mg-60-Tablets/1039#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=NAD,&rc=60&sr=null&ic=1
Now Foods, Melatonin, 3 mg, 180 Capsules $7.64
http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Melatonin-3-mg-180-Capsules/328#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=melatonin sleep adhd&rc=217&sr=null&ic=1
A.C. Grace Company, Unique E, 30 Softgels $9.56
http://www.iherb.com/A-C-Grace-Company-Unique-E-30-Softgels/8627#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=Unique E&rc=756&sr=null&ic=2
Jarrow Formulas, CarnitAll 600+, 90 Veggie Caps $18.82
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-CarnitAll-600-90-Veggie-Caps/4330#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=l carnitine 600&rc=707&sr=null&ic=1
Life Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ $40.50
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Super-Ubiquinol-CoQ10-with-BioQQ-100-mg-30-Softgels/50706#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ&rc=7&sr=null&ic=1
Radio: These are the supplements I'm using for lipid therapy and mitochondrial support.
Nt Factors™ Energy Lipid Powder 150 Grams
PureFormulas $44.15
Amazon price US $47.76
iHerb are charging $70.66
BodyBio PC $61.44
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001169CF6...=UTF8&colid=STE6K5DNMJYK&coliid=IJ444PD8I5XBI
Enzymatic Therapy, B12 Infusion, Energy
http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-B12-Infusion-Energy-30-Chewable-Tablets/2119#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=b12 methylcobalamin&rc=446&sr=null&ic=15
Joint Pain Relief 24/7 Topical D-Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin Sulfate Patches
http://www.amazon.com/Topical-D-Glucosamine-Sulfate-Chondroitin-Patches/dp/B00G4EBZAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396313249&sr=8-1&keywords=sulfate patches
Pure Encapsulations, O.N.E Multivitamin ( http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Encapsula...min-With-Metafolin-L-5-MTHF-60-Capsules/52461 ) $32.20
Life Extension, Pantothenic Acid Vitamin B-5, 500 mg $7.88
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Pantothenic-Acid-Vitamin-B-5-500-mg-100-Capsules/4902#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=vitamin b 5&rc=9957&sr=null&ic=1
Source Naturals, Coenzymated B-3, Sublingual, 25 mg $13.16
http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Coenzymated-B-3-Sublingual-25-mg-60-Tablets/1039#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=NAD,&rc=60&sr=null&ic=1
Now Foods, Melatonin, 3 mg, 180 Capsules $7.64
http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Melatonin-3-mg-180-Capsules/328#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=melatonin sleep adhd&rc=217&sr=null&ic=1
A.C. Grace Company, Unique E, 30 Softgels $9.56
http://www.iherb.com/A-C-Grace-Company-Unique-E-30-Softgels/8627#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=Unique E&rc=756&sr=null&ic=2
Jarrow Formulas, CarnitAll 600+, 90 Veggie Caps $18.82
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-CarnitAll-600-90-Veggie-Caps/4330#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=l carnitine 600&rc=707&sr=null&ic=1
Life Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ $40.50
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Super-Ubiquinol-CoQ10-with-BioQQ-100-mg-30-Softgels/50706#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=Extension Super Ubiquniol Coq10 With BioPQQ&rc=7&sr=null&ic=1
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I did not benefit from D-ribose. Dr. Sarah Myhill noted that taking D-ribose depend on the condition of the digestive system. She said that if the digestive system is fermentative that is, dominated by dysbiotic bacteria that ferment foods, D-ribose will not be helpful and in fact will feed these dysbiotic bacteria.
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@Radio, I'm just watching the vid. I settled on taking choline as choline bitartrate. I notice that my compounding chemist sells this form. I've spent time trying to understand the differences between choline and phosphotidyl choline, but haven't really seen anything to suggest I'm taking the wrong sort. Do you have some understanding of this? thanks, ahmo
I've just gotten to the end of the vid. There's the image of all the pc brands I've rejected in my decision to go w/ choline bitartrate. AND, the info that excess choline is damaging. You and this vid have convinced me, I'm on to Amazon to order BodyBio.
BTW, I also had problems w/ D Ribose. First, I took too much, my fault, racing heart, awful. Later, I think it contributed to a toxic response I had, which was precipitated by using denatured whey for glutathione. I've never added it back. Thanks for this great info.
BTW, I also had problems w/ D Ribose. First, I took too much, my fault, racing heart, awful. Later, I think it contributed to a toxic response I had, which was precipitated by using denatured whey for glutathione. I've never added it back. Thanks for this great info.