drob31
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I'd Iove to know the answer to this.
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I have read these news reports, but I have not seen convincing data on that. Our death rate has been relatively flat for several months. Delta itself is causing an explosion of infections and you would presume deaths will follow to some degree eventually, but most of the media reports I've seen are still anecdotal. You can always find one healthy college age person who died from COVID. You can find deaths in breakthroughs as well. That doesn't mean that vaccines aren't working, but it also doesn't mean that ALL people in hospitals are unvaccinated. I know what the news is reporting, but it's peculiar because other countries are finding vaccines effective, but only the USA is claiming near perfection.
So in the UK at any rate, the NHS would not have been able to cope with the number of patients.
What do you think about the ivermectin study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1
Primary endpoint is viral load as measured by Ct value. That might be relevant to somewhat reduce transmission and maybe slightly shorten duration. Study design seems decent, but would be much more interesting to see a study where the primary endpoint is hospitalization or death with a secondary endpoint of long term symptoms. An adequately powered study like that; I would love to see a link if anyone knows one.
Normal people should get vaxed. Some get long covid from vax, but much much less than covid itself.
When I am browsing through YouTube I see news from local news networks where people die from the vaccine and in the comments section people writing about adverse reactions and sometimes deaths of family/coworkers.
Im not sure why mainstream networks don't cover this or the cdc making a statement giving condolences to lost ones
When I was in college 10 years ago we were given articles and trained to write reasons for and reasons against.It seems like transparency is lost in this day and age.
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