Non-Covid Vaccine Question

[Judee]

ME can be switched off completely;

I'm not so sure of this anymore...maybe for a subset of patients but possibly not for everyone...esp since doctors and researchers still don't know what this disease is nor what really causes it.

Also for young people who feel like they've recovered, I worry they may have found a workaround but those same workarounds can stop working...even diets as I've read here on PR...for no explainable reason. Anyone whose been around here for a while knows what a constantly changing "chameleon" this disease is.

By thinking they are well and then overconfidently pushing through, are they really just building up "loan shark" interest on their energy reserves that's gonna come due in their older years. It can happen. It has happened to many of us.

Plus, if ME can happen to people who were enjoying what seemed like complete health and then got completely struck down by it that tells me it can happen again esp to someone who has already dealt with it once esp if their overconfidence blinds them to the possibilty.

No, I think this disease whatever it is digs in deep and it somehow constantly moves the goal posts. It's stealthy.

I'm starting to think it's gonna take something that goes deep too (maybe multiple things concurrently) and then even with that it's gonna take time afterward for the body to heal. I'm not one of the brainiacs here but that makes more sense to me now than a switch at least in my case.

 

[GreenEdge]

Does that switch off your ME completely, or just reduce some symptoms a bit?

Reduced neuropathy.

ME can be switched off completely; I've had it do that multiple times, from several unrelated chemicals, but I wasn't able to keep it switched off.

A year ago I would not have believed you, but late last year I had 3 remissions within a 4 month period. Each lasted for about a week and each occurred after being sick with diarrhea for about 5 days (so I didn't eat).

Was it being sick that helped normalize the function of my immune system?
Did the extended fast enable clearing up some pathogen in my digestive system?

I have not been sick or fasted since then. One day this week I didn't eat because I wasn't hungry. Maybe it was that which helped a bit?

 

[Viala]

A year ago I would not have believed you, but late last year I had 3 remissions within a 4 month period. Each lasted for about a week and each occurred after being sick with diarrhea for about 5 days (so I didn't eat).

What was your diet at the time?

 

[GreenEdge]

What was your diet at the time?

I've been carnivore now for 15 months and at the time I was doing a more strict version known as the lion diet. I was also eating a lot of salmon to get more omega 3 EPA & DHA.

It was actually over a 5 month period (#1, #2, #3) and the last one was only 4 months ago.

 

[Wishful]

Each lasted for about a week and each occurred after being sick with diarrhea for about 5 days (so I didn't eat).

When I'm faced with food that might be a bit off (stored too long too warm), I'm not quick to toss it out. Food poisoning cured my type IV food sensitivity, so maybe some slightly stinky meat might do something helpful for my ME. It's not like I have a lot of other safer options for potential treatments.

 

[Forummember9922]

When I'm faced with food that might be a bit off (stored too long too warm), I'm not quick to toss it out. Food poisoning cured my type IV food sensitivity, so maybe some slightly stinky meat might do something helpful for my ME. It's not like I have a lot of other safer options for potential treatments.

Poison could be the answer! Joking! I am looking at SADBE to increase T cell responses and I bring this up because it causes a response in the body in a similar way that poison ivy does. These are kind of my grey area interpretations. To give an example though, from a study on alopecia: Later nitrogen mustard, poison ivy, nickel, formalin, and primin were tried, mainly as topical immunotherapy, for Alopecia Areata and warts.

 

[GreenEdge]

Each lasted for about a week and each occurred after being sick with diarrhea for about 5 days (so I didn't eat).

The food poisoning I experienced was caused by me eating meat and fat trimmings from my butcher that was meant to be used only as pet food. If you love your pet cat or dog, I highly recommend it. The variety of flavors and textures was delicious and it was very cheap, but it turned out to be risky for human consumption. It's a lesson learnt.

PS. Cat's and dog's are carnivores too, but they do best on raw meat. In fact cat's fail to reproduce within 2 generations if fed only cooked meat. Also when fed raw their noses will easily detect any bad meat.

PPS. If you feed your pet dried food they will get the same non-communicable diseases that humans get from eating ultra-processed foods. It might be cheaper but you will pay for it in vet bills and your beloved pet will only live half as long. The same is true for humans.

 

[Wishful]

meat and fat trimmings from my butcher that was meant to be used only as pet food.

Delicatessens also sold the ends of sausage and other deli meats (quite cheap). I bought them when I could. Lots of delicious treasures to be found. Later they had to tell customers that it was for pets only (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). I haven't had access to a deli in 20+ years, so I don't know whether they still sell that, or if the busybodies prevented it. *sigh* Good memories.

I did get slight food poisoning a few times, but not bad enough to deter me from enjoying more.