Nicotine, tobacco and Cfs has anyone benefited?

Davsey27

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Curuous if anyone has benefited from nicotine gum,smoking cigarettes mildly

I hear that nicotine from gum and tobacco work on nicotinamide receptors
and minus the carcinogenic affects from tobacco there may be some benefit to the brain and cognition.

Not sure if this is true but I did hear from
Dr kruse that low doses of nicotine gum in the sun can help with mitochondrial functioning

Thank you
 

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Before I became uncomfortable ill at the age of 30 I have smoked for about ten years, 10 cigarettes a day.

I know now that I was affected very mildly by the illness, and I would say that the cigarettes have been some help.

I also happened to smoke sometimes pipe instead, which was pharmadynamically more wise, as I interpretate it now.

However, I will not hurt myself again by smoking. Though recently during a (difficult) improvement I tried snuff, but it was not strong enough (also the addiction arose), so I stopped it. Maybe I will test it again.
 

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Before I became uncomfortable ill at the age of 30 I have smoked for about ten years, 10 cigarettes a day.

I know now that I was affected very mildly by the illness, and I would say that the cigarettes have been some help.

I also happened to smoke sometimes pipe instead, which was pharmadynamically more wise, as I interpretate it now.

However, I will not hurt myself again by smoking. Though recently during a (difficult) improvement I tried snuff, but it was not strong enough (also the addiction arose), so I stopped it. Maybe I will test it again.[/QUOTE

You mentioned you won’t hurt yourself by smoking.Did you notice any negative effects?
 

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Only normal ones. Smoking is just unhealthy. A plant gets burned, and tabacco serves you even with a lot of unhealthy stuff.

When I tried it for a month again (now 15 years ago), it really felt ugly.

Once after having begun with smoking a dentist said to me: Your teeth are not so well.

Why that, I answered, I havn´t changed cleaning my teeth. Only now I am aware enough to blame the smoking for it.

Somehow a pity. No surprise, I loved smoking (especially pipe is nicely calming).

The nicotin is rather not that a problem, of course also not completly without problems.
 

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We talked a bit about it in this post but more for helping with brain fog.

I did try it as a gum and if I remember correctly, it did make me feel a bit calmer (more relaxed) but gave my mouth odd tingly sensation. I cut the squares in tiny pieces too. It didn't do anything for the ME/CFS though and I am super sensitive to feeling when something does help even just a tiny bit.
 

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Nicotine can be a vagus nerve stimulator when you have an impairment in nicotonic acetylcholine receptor signalling function. This dysfunction can be common when you have Autonomic Neuropathy (or Small Fiber Neuropathy when it affects autonomic fibers too, one and the same thing as AN then).

Mestinon (or even Parasym Plus or the supplement huperzine A) may be an alternative to try if nicotine helps with symptoms.
 

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I find nicotine/tobacco very helpful for hypersensitivity and mood. I think it helps my POTS a little too. Definitely doesn't make it worse.

Interestingly I find tobacco much more effective than nicotine alone. Not sure what is actually happening there, but it might be from one of the minor alkoloids found in tobacco.

The safest delivery vehicle at present seems to be swedish snus, which is a fine ground tobacco usually put inside a teabag-like pouch, that you put under your lip. The nicotine, along with the other compounds, are absorbed through the oral mucosa.

For those interested in nicotine alone, swedish snus companies are also making nicotine pouches which are similar to snus, but they use a nicotine infused plant fiber instead of tobacco.

Both snus and nicotine pouches are available in the US, often at gas stations or 7-11 or circle-K convenience stores. I think snus is banned in the EU, apart from Sweden. I'm not sure about the pouches.
 
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Nicotine actually stimulates apoptosis so it can be beneficial in helping cells resist infection depending on the bacteria and viruses involved. However, it is very bad for causing atherosclerosis by triggering inflammation in the blood vessels and raising blood pressure. Inflammation can be controlled with curcumin however you really can't have hypertension for too long without serious risks from stroke and heart attacks. It is also addictive.
 
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