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Thanks Lisa...I plan to crush folapro and crush hydroxy with a mortar and pestle (even a sublingual). I am worried about fillers but not much I can do. I plan to take a dusting. I'm so sensitive that's how I'll start. "A pinch of salt". The problem if is you're not monitoring urines which is expensive you don't really know if it's "detox" or "tox".
As someone who has been on a methylation protocol for about 20 months, I can tell you that this is the trickiest issue. Like most, I had to start with crushing the folates and B12 and taking micro doses. I think I started out with using an eighth of a tablet, felt fine, then after 3 days was slammed into detox. So I stopped for a week and started the micro doses. This was fine and I worked up on the doses over several months till I was comfortable at the "full dose" of one quarter tablet of Folopro and Actifolate (used to be Intrinsi/B12/Folate till Metagenics changed the ingedients).
This dose was fine for about a year with definite, steady (but manageable) detox. Then fairly suddenly this same dose started causing run-away detox and I had to take a break. The probable explanation is that methylation function was picking up and I was using the nutrients more efficiently, hence needing less. Lab tests confirmed a significant increase in methylation.
So now I am back to practically grinding up the folates and B12 or cutting them into crumbs. I get the same reaction whether I use hydrox B12 or methyl B12--a little goes a very long way.
I have not had the funds to keep doing urine checks to see what exactly is being detoxed, but I have been ill a very long time and am sure there is a lovely choice of toxins waiting in line at the several exit points. Genova's detoxification panel (10 months ago) did show compromised ability to detox.
Though I don't know what is coming out, my body has regained the ability to sweat (hats off to FIR sauna!), and whatever it is, it stinks! That said, progressively I have felt better and am able to handle the more classic detox therapies much better.
Many of us who have been on methylation therapy for a while are also wondering if we need to do something more to deal with heavy metals, and if so, what would be safe. There has been a lot of discussion of OSR in this light. So far, I am not risking any experimentation!
Sushi thanks for the insight. You say what comes out stinks? Reminds me of the Ron Hubbard approach to the 9/11 rescue workers--they'd go in the saunas, with their niacin, and out would come stinky stuff and weird colored stuff...
I wouldn't try OSR myself that's for sure. It's too new. Either my body lets it go because it's gently stimulated or it doesn't let it go. If I force it I'll get sicker.
The CFS doc I just saw (that does biopuncture & photon-directed action) said the jury is still out on OSR. He feels there just isn't that much background information on the research behind it.
I tried it, but it didn't work as well for me as I'd hoped. Tested poorly energetically as well.