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I guess we have more med visits increasing probability of harm. Borrowing @Rufous McKinney clever phrase medical PTSD, i was reminiscing that Ive had four permanent bad effect visits- 3 docs (all i would argue malpractice) and one test had bad reaction to . Lifelong consequences
Also caught two very bad infectious diseases from doc , both in 2014, that also have been life altering
In addition , 2 further doc visits count as med ptsd. The effects did not last forever, but they both changed how I interacted with docs forever. One was an old-school doc otherwise very good but also with a God complex who as a test of how bad my liver was pushed on it really hard and just kept his hand there until I screamed in pain. I guess I screamed in pain faster than if I had no liver disease but he recommended at that point I get to a specialist. Well that gave me pain for I don’t know months I guess and from that point on I have never again let a doctor palpate in upper tight abdominal quadrant. callingvitb PTSD because we trust these people not to harm us When I dwell on it what kind of barbaric test is that for someone who has elevated liver enzymes and is ill.? The othet one that comes to mind is a rheumatologist who was just too rough with my joints giving me long lasting pain and mobility problems so now I won’t let anyone move my joints on exam again. Oh I almost forgot there’s a third one physical therapist who started me on such a bad advanced exercise for knees that seem to cause my kneecaps to pop out or something and I had trouble walking for about six weeks I don’t even know how to categorize that I guess that’s three things that affects from med staff. Long lasting but not lifelong
For test, side effects , ive gotten from MRIs , especially with injecting contrast, and I have this quirkmthat I happen to have of getting side effects from sonograms/ultrasound tests so these all gave me negative affects although we did not last more than well I don’t know if they were not lifelong I don’t think (except for one)
Others im not sure of. Was the 1/10th of a dose i finally allowed of iv iron life damaging? Not sure- had real problems from it.
OK so now it’s only fair on the positive side since presumably we have to assess the cost benefit ratio of med care . There have been three big ones on the positive side. I had an outpatient procedure/surgery under local anesthetic that arguably prevented cancer which most likely would’ve occurred. Second, a doctor said sonething that got me to alter behavior (tonprove her wrong) but I think probably also prolong my life by 10 years and avoid other med issues and finally a different physical therapist introduced me to kineseo taping and range of motion excercises. Even though he actually made both of my shoulders worse misdiagnosing them as frozen shoulder his two contributions have been life altering positive change
This is just medical not dental thatbthrough some historical accident was not considered medicine if I go through dental issues and catastrophes then my blood pressure will rise too much so I will explain what happened with dentistry another time
SonJust considering medicine what’s the balance on my experiences? Id say on balance, it was negative and even with the cancer risk I don’t know for sure it would’ve become cancer and I think on balance I would rather have taken my choice so if I could take it all back and not have the positive outcomes in exchange for not having the negative ones I would do all the med visits for sure. I think this is also behind the deep bitterness (or han for those who know the word) against medical care.
Now people can ground me. In terms of quantity and quality how to my experience is compared to others? Seems to me like I’ve had an excessive number of bad things and a minimal number of good things but perhaps I’ lack the perspective to know
I’m not sure what forum to place this thread. If the moderators want to pick up the whole thread and move it elsewhere, I’m OK with that just let me know where to find it. This did not seem appropriate for the lounge because I don’t know it’s not about cat videos or guitar music but it’s also not about treatment for CFS so not sure yet I think it’s still relevant because what CFS comes lots of doctor visits which themselves can be life-changing as they have been for me. Should I add two of my catastrophic things were before I was ever sick well I should qualify that but I’ve said enough
Also caught two very bad infectious diseases from doc , both in 2014, that also have been life altering
In addition , 2 further doc visits count as med ptsd. The effects did not last forever, but they both changed how I interacted with docs forever. One was an old-school doc otherwise very good but also with a God complex who as a test of how bad my liver was pushed on it really hard and just kept his hand there until I screamed in pain. I guess I screamed in pain faster than if I had no liver disease but he recommended at that point I get to a specialist. Well that gave me pain for I don’t know months I guess and from that point on I have never again let a doctor palpate in upper tight abdominal quadrant. callingvitb PTSD because we trust these people not to harm us When I dwell on it what kind of barbaric test is that for someone who has elevated liver enzymes and is ill.? The othet one that comes to mind is a rheumatologist who was just too rough with my joints giving me long lasting pain and mobility problems so now I won’t let anyone move my joints on exam again. Oh I almost forgot there’s a third one physical therapist who started me on such a bad advanced exercise for knees that seem to cause my kneecaps to pop out or something and I had trouble walking for about six weeks I don’t even know how to categorize that I guess that’s three things that affects from med staff. Long lasting but not lifelong
For test, side effects , ive gotten from MRIs , especially with injecting contrast, and I have this quirkmthat I happen to have of getting side effects from sonograms/ultrasound tests so these all gave me negative affects although we did not last more than well I don’t know if they were not lifelong I don’t think (except for one)
Others im not sure of. Was the 1/10th of a dose i finally allowed of iv iron life damaging? Not sure- had real problems from it.
OK so now it’s only fair on the positive side since presumably we have to assess the cost benefit ratio of med care . There have been three big ones on the positive side. I had an outpatient procedure/surgery under local anesthetic that arguably prevented cancer which most likely would’ve occurred. Second, a doctor said sonething that got me to alter behavior (tonprove her wrong) but I think probably also prolong my life by 10 years and avoid other med issues and finally a different physical therapist introduced me to kineseo taping and range of motion excercises. Even though he actually made both of my shoulders worse misdiagnosing them as frozen shoulder his two contributions have been life altering positive change
This is just medical not dental thatbthrough some historical accident was not considered medicine if I go through dental issues and catastrophes then my blood pressure will rise too much so I will explain what happened with dentistry another time
SonJust considering medicine what’s the balance on my experiences? Id say on balance, it was negative and even with the cancer risk I don’t know for sure it would’ve become cancer and I think on balance I would rather have taken my choice so if I could take it all back and not have the positive outcomes in exchange for not having the negative ones I would do all the med visits for sure. I think this is also behind the deep bitterness (or han for those who know the word) against medical care.
Now people can ground me. In terms of quantity and quality how to my experience is compared to others? Seems to me like I’ve had an excessive number of bad things and a minimal number of good things but perhaps I’ lack the perspective to know
I’m not sure what forum to place this thread. If the moderators want to pick up the whole thread and move it elsewhere, I’m OK with that just let me know where to find it. This did not seem appropriate for the lounge because I don’t know it’s not about cat videos or guitar music but it’s also not about treatment for CFS so not sure yet I think it’s still relevant because what CFS comes lots of doctor visits which themselves can be life-changing as they have been for me. Should I add two of my catastrophic things were before I was ever sick well I should qualify that but I’ve said enough
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