Is Coxsackie B & Echo worth testing for these days?

[Guwop2]

Given how incredibly difficult these tests seem to be to have done - the treatment roadmap indicates that there are virtualy no centres in Europe to test (Frankfurt I understand doesn't do this anymore, leaving the Pasteur Inst. in Greece, which only provide a kind of walk-in service) - i cant imagine anyone is bothering to have these tests done. Are they worth pursuing? My guess is that people on here just trying the treatments suggested rather than having these tests. Thoughts anyone?

 

[BrightCandle]

In a lot of cases diagnosis via treatment is quicker and cheaper and its something even the PCPs do. Ultimately if the treatment is relatively low risk its often preferable to go right too it as it confirms the diagnosis one way or the other.

 

[Hip]

Given how incredibly difficult these tests seem to be to have done - the treatment roadmap indicates that there are virtualy no centres in Europe to test (Frankfurt I understand doesn't do this anymore, leaving the Pasteur Inst. in Greece, which only provide a kind of walk-in service)

One of the centres in Germany offering coxsackievirus B and echovirus antibody tests by the sensitive neutralisation method stopped doing it, but these tests are still available at Institute of Medical Virology, University Hospital Frankfurt. You just fill out their form (as shown in this post), and send your serum. To obtain serum, you just ask the phlebotomy lab that takes your blood sample to centrifuge it, to extract the pale yellow serum.

However, you can also consider trying some of the treatments that Dr Chia uses for enteroviruses even without testing, like oxymatrine, Epivir and tenofovir.

 

[Hip]

the Pasteur Inst. in Greece, which only provide a kind of walk-in service

Did the Pasteur Institute in Greece tell you that they only test patients who walk into their centre? I know someone who shipped their blood serum to the Pasteur Institute to be tested for coxsackievirus B. But maybe the Pasteur Institute have changed their policy?

 

[Guwop2]

Did the Pasteur Institute in Greece tell you that they only test patients who walk into their centre? I know someone who shipped their blood serum to the Pasteur Institute to be tested for coxsackievirus B. But maybe the Pasteur Institute have changed their policy?

I enquired a few years ago over the phone and from what I remember I was told to just swing by on certain days. I dont have an email to back this up, but i remember the call

 

[Inez]

One of the centres in Germany offering coxsackievirus B and echovirus antibody tests by the sensitive neutralisation method stopped doing it, but these tests are still available at Institute of Medical Virology, University Hospital Frankfurt. You just fill out their form (as shown in this post), and send your serum. To obtain serum, you just ask the phlebotomy lab that takes your blood sample to centrifuge it, to extract the pale yellow serum.

However, you can also consider trying some of the treatments that Dr Chia uses for enteroviruses even without testing, like oxymatrine, Epivir and tenofovir.

Hi @Hip don't know if you can help - I'm sending my serum to Frankfurt tomorrow but now looking at the forms there's one for insurance that they emailed me called 'registration for private patients'. I am a private patient but don't have insurance so should I ignore it? I don't have time to call or email them before the blood draw and pick up. The form that you posted above is all complete. Did you send just that one? Thanks

 

[Hip]

I'm sending my serum to Frankfurt tomorrow but now looking at the forms there's one for insurance that they emailed me called 'registration for private patients'. I am a private patient but don't have insurance so should I ignore it?

I don't know I am afraid, I've never used the Frankfurt lab.

 

[Inez]

No worries