Insights into ME/CFS phenotypes through comprehensive metabolomics (Lipkin, Hornig)

[Tom Kindlon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1023246864437657600

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1023261631709683712

 

[keepontruckin]

Which is preferable to take - L-carnitine or acetyl l-carnitine?

 

[Tom Kindlon]

Which is preferable to take - L-carnitine or acetyl l-carnitine?

Results: Clinical global impression of change after treatment showed considerable improvement in 59% of the patients in the acetylcarnitine group and 63% in the propionylcarnitine group, but less in the acetylcarnitine plus propionylcarnitine group (37%). Acetylcarnitine significantly improved mental fatigue ( p = .015) and propionylcarnitine improved general fatigue ( p = .004). Attention concentration improved in all groups, whereas pain complaints did not decrease in any group.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.502.994&rep=rep1&type=pdf

 

[aquariusgirl]

[QUOTE="SherDa I think I could probably write a short manifesto on the importance of iron in human metabolism.[/QUOTE]

Pls share what you have found to help w/iron.

I don’t want to supplement directly...

 

[aquariusgirl]

@Learner1 ...where do you get your custom amino blend?

 

[perrier]

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.502.994&rep=rep1&type=pdf

What dose are they talking about?

 

[perrier]

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.502.994&rep=rep1&type=pdf

The propionalcarnitine seems difficult to obtain, and from I've read is given IV by doctors. Any other info would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[ljimbo423]

The propionalcarnitine seems difficult to obtain, and from I've read is given IV by doctors. Any other info would be appreciated. Thanks

It can be bought as a supplement but it seems fairly expensive-
It can be found here.

 

[perrier]

It can be bought as a supplement but it seems fairly expensive-
It can be found here.

Thank you

 

[Learner1]

@Learner1 ...where do you get your custom amino blend?

From here - my doctor ordered it for me:

https://www.personalized-nutrients.com/how-it-works.aspx

 

[lauluce]

I don't get it, are Lipkin and Hornig working together right now? what about the issue of sexual abuse claims? Maybe it's not the right place to ask, but what happened to the "Microbe discovery project", and also equally importantly, to the 1 million+ dollars that where raised form donors? will that money be put to any good use or will it just be eaten by somebody? I'm really confused about this issue

 

[Consul]

Quote from the paper

Many ME/CFS patients in our cohort take vitamin B supplements (26/50, 52%) that have the potential to increase levels of pantothenic acid. Use of vitamin B supplements was associated with higher levels of pantothenic acid and lower fatigue scores