Wayne
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My health has been gradually improving since mid-May when I purchased a GB-4000 Rife Frequency Generator Machine (primarily used to kill various pathogens) and began experimenting with it. Ive noticed several things along the way, and thought I would chronicle some of my experiences.
First of all, I chose to go with Rife frequencies instead of antibiotics to treat my Lyme for a number of reasons. One of the major reasons was because bacterial dieoff will result from both therapies, but can become especially intense when using antibiotics. I read that spirochetal (Lyme) bacteria, when sensing a hostile environment in the bloodstream from antibiotics, will immediately begin burrowing deeper into tissue, nerves, muscles, etc. to escape it. Having very sharp edges, it can create reactions over and above normal dieoff herx reactions. This is apparently a situation where Lyme rage can really set in and become very difficult to deal with.
Even when I finally got the Rife machine, which supposedly doesnt initiate similar reactions, I still waited 1-2 weeks before finally getting up the courage to try it. Ive been thrown for a loop by many things in the past, and felt I needed to be in at least somewhat good physical and psychological shape to start this journey, and be prepared for whatever it might bring.
There are almost 100 different frequencies that are listed for Lyme in the manual that came with the Rife machine. This particular machine can run 8 frequencies at a time (which is then called a group), and I started by running 12 different groups for one minute each. Bracing for the worst, I noticed right away that my sinuses began to clear as I held on to the contacts with my hands. I also became very relaxed and sleepy.
The next day, I felt a bit better than normal. Intuitively, it felt that it was directly related to the Rife session. The next 2-3 days, I felt a bit worse than normal. When I finally reached my normal baseline, I felt I was ready for my next session. This was probably about 5-6 days later. This next session produced very similar results. Except this time, my a bit worse than normal was a little less, lasting no more than 2 days or so.
Over the next several weeks, my somewhat worse amount of time afterward became less and less. I gradually shortened the time between sessions, and am now at every other day. I also gradually increased my minutes per frequency from one minute up to three minutes. Im going to increase my next session to four minutes.
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Several weeks into my experimentation, I talked with Bryan Rosner on the phone to order his excellent book, When Antibiotics Fail... Lyme Disease and Rife Machines - With Critical Evaluation of Leading Alternative Therapies. I mentioned I was thinking about restarting the chlorine dioxide compound called Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS). I had experimented with it in the past with good results, and had heard that it has significantly helped other Lyme patients.
His first response was something like, yeah, MMS can be very effective for breaking up cysts. We didn't discuss it much, but it was sort of a catalyst for me to start taking MMS again. My gut reaction to this was this could be just one more possibility to avoid the traditional cyst busting drug Flagyl often prescribed by Lyme Literate Medical Doctors (LLMDs). This was about 4-5 weeks into my Rife therapy.
I started out slowly at one drop of MMS per day, and gradually built up over the weeks to where Im now at 4.5 drops/day. What I noticed was that MMS began to present with the same pattern as the Rife session. In short, I would immediately feel better, and then could feel somewhat worse for a while afterwards. These cycles were much shorter however. The MMS only stays in the system for about two hours; I noticed I could feel better for anywhere from 2 to 6 hours, but then might feel worse for the rest of the day. This eventually gave way to not feeling any worse at all afterwards.
At one point, I re-read in Bryan Rosners book that usually within six weeks or so, a person will start to occasionally feel significantly better for at least an hour or so; I wondered at the time whether that would happen for me. About 3-4 days later, I awoke, and felt good. As the morning wore on, I felt even better. I did a lot that day (by my standards), and seemed to sail through it all fairly well. By the end of the day, I realized I had done as much on other days, but on this particular day, I was able to do a lot and not feel totally spent, wired out and exhausted afterward. It was a hopeful sign, and Ive had a couple more similar days since then.
.........................................................
At one point however, when I was doing both Rife and MMS together, I experimented with doing a Rife session two days in a row. It ended up being my first experience where I felt I had definitely done too much. I woke up often that night with bad headaches which persisted into the next day. By morning I was quite nauseous as well, and totally out of it. I had various small boils breaking out, mostly on my legs. I also had some areas of itching I had experienced in the past at moderate levels (mostly in my feet and ankles), become much worse. That morning I had bad vertigo as well.
After feeling quite miserable for a couple hours, I got enough focus to prepare a clay foot bath for myself. Within an hour, I was feeling immensely better. I was still a bit weak, and my vertigo did hang on for a while longer, but I could be in bed and be quite comfortable. It was my first lesson in how much worse a herx reaction from too much Rife could become. It also gave me insights into how they might be managed.
These new insights had me getting more focused on my detoxification tools. I had been gradually doing more frequent Far Infrared (FIR) saunas (because my somewhat improved overall energy and functionality allowed it). I also now had the motivation to start doing epsom salt baths again, something I had often thought about doing more regularly over the years. They proved to feel good and effective, especially when any kind of herx reaction initiated a bit more pain in my body. Im now at the point where I do roughly 2 FIR saunas, 2 clay foot baths, and 2 epsom salt baths each week. I generally dont do anything at least one day a week to give things a break.
Regarding the skin itching I mentioned above, I read a short time later in the remarkable book, Cure Unknown - Inside the Lyme Epidemic, that Lyme bacteria can actually hide out in skin cells. It made sense to me, given how Ive experienced skin itching episodes over the years, and had them become worse right after doing a Rife session. It also made me realize why antibiotics do not work well for some Lyme patients. I think antibiotics normally work in the bloodstream and cant get into other areas of the body very well, the skin likely being one of them.
.........................................................
Theres so much information on this forum and online about Lyme testing. I never felt I had the combination of cognitive ability + energy + focus to justify making a huge effort to try to comprehend such detailed and intricate information. I had at least 2-3 negative tests over the years, but came to understand how notoriously unreliable conventional Lyme testing is. My most recent testing came back positive for Lyme and a number of co-infections, and I trusted my naturopathic doctor (ND) to interpret them as well as I ever could. Now, my Rife experiences have given me some additional perspectives on how to determine whether a person truly has Lyme or not. Doug McClain's story, who was purportedly the first person to cure himself of Lyme using electrical frequencies, illustrates my latest thinking quite well.
Doug was experimenting in his basement (around 1986) looking at Lyme spirochetes under a microscope and running various frequencies to see their effect on them. While running a certain frequency, he was able to watch the spirochetes literally explode before his eyes. It was a eureka moment for him. But the following morning brought another eureka moment. He felt absolutely miserable. He quickly realized he had exposed the spirochetes in his body to this frequency as well, and he was having a huge dieoff/herx reaction.
This story, plus my own experience, makes me think that somewhat of a marker for whether a person truly has Lyme or not would be to experiment with known effective Rife frequencies, and see if there is a significant reaction. Seems it could be just as reliable (or more) than some of the tests that are currently available. Since Rife machines can also kill various viruses, I think its possible that somebody with known viral infections/overloads could use Rife frequencies as well, and could have some similar experiences as mine with bacterial treatment. Ive read that viruses in general are easier to treat with Rife machines than bacteria.
Eventually, I plan to experiment with various Rife frequencies to target certain viruses, and use the above diagnostic criteria as somewhat of a barometer as to whether they are a problem for me or not. Not very scientific by most standards, but it seems to be the best choice for me. Its really difficult for me at this time to make doctor appointments, sit through them and try to stay focused, and followup afterwards. I still have paperwork for blood work that was given to me by my doctor several months ago. Just cant bring myself to make the expenditure of energy to pull it all off. Perhaps more upcoming good days will have me re-evaluating this strategy.
For the time being, I'll be staying focused on my current strategy of Rife and MMS. I feel it's working well, and is creating as much dieoff as I would want to tolerate at any given time. My next step might be to include (very gradually), a Salt C protocol.
...........................................................
One last tidbit: I met a local 40-year-old man recently (by phone only so far), who discovered only last year he probably has had Lyme since he was eight. His wife and three children all have it as well. They are now all treating themselves with the same GB4000 Rife machine I'm using. His wife has improved to the point where her immune system has now kicked in (a common occurrence after lowering Lyme bacteria levels to a certain point).
He also shared that after he tested positive, about 6-7 siblings/cousins he grew up with in Iowa have now all tested positive as well. All of them have chosen to purchase the GB4000, and are sharing notes with each other as they learn and progress. I anticipate him being a valuable resource for me as I move forward. As I get new insights from them and my own experiences, Ill try to pass them along with some much shorter posts! :Retro smile:
Best Regards, Wayne
My health has been gradually improving since mid-May when I purchased a GB-4000 Rife Frequency Generator Machine (primarily used to kill various pathogens) and began experimenting with it. Ive noticed several things along the way, and thought I would chronicle some of my experiences.
First of all, I chose to go with Rife frequencies instead of antibiotics to treat my Lyme for a number of reasons. One of the major reasons was because bacterial dieoff will result from both therapies, but can become especially intense when using antibiotics. I read that spirochetal (Lyme) bacteria, when sensing a hostile environment in the bloodstream from antibiotics, will immediately begin burrowing deeper into tissue, nerves, muscles, etc. to escape it. Having very sharp edges, it can create reactions over and above normal dieoff herx reactions. This is apparently a situation where Lyme rage can really set in and become very difficult to deal with.
Even when I finally got the Rife machine, which supposedly doesnt initiate similar reactions, I still waited 1-2 weeks before finally getting up the courage to try it. Ive been thrown for a loop by many things in the past, and felt I needed to be in at least somewhat good physical and psychological shape to start this journey, and be prepared for whatever it might bring.
There are almost 100 different frequencies that are listed for Lyme in the manual that came with the Rife machine. This particular machine can run 8 frequencies at a time (which is then called a group), and I started by running 12 different groups for one minute each. Bracing for the worst, I noticed right away that my sinuses began to clear as I held on to the contacts with my hands. I also became very relaxed and sleepy.
The next day, I felt a bit better than normal. Intuitively, it felt that it was directly related to the Rife session. The next 2-3 days, I felt a bit worse than normal. When I finally reached my normal baseline, I felt I was ready for my next session. This was probably about 5-6 days later. This next session produced very similar results. Except this time, my a bit worse than normal was a little less, lasting no more than 2 days or so.
Over the next several weeks, my somewhat worse amount of time afterward became less and less. I gradually shortened the time between sessions, and am now at every other day. I also gradually increased my minutes per frequency from one minute up to three minutes. Im going to increase my next session to four minutes.
..........................................................
Several weeks into my experimentation, I talked with Bryan Rosner on the phone to order his excellent book, When Antibiotics Fail... Lyme Disease and Rife Machines - With Critical Evaluation of Leading Alternative Therapies. I mentioned I was thinking about restarting the chlorine dioxide compound called Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS). I had experimented with it in the past with good results, and had heard that it has significantly helped other Lyme patients.
His first response was something like, yeah, MMS can be very effective for breaking up cysts. We didn't discuss it much, but it was sort of a catalyst for me to start taking MMS again. My gut reaction to this was this could be just one more possibility to avoid the traditional cyst busting drug Flagyl often prescribed by Lyme Literate Medical Doctors (LLMDs). This was about 4-5 weeks into my Rife therapy.
I started out slowly at one drop of MMS per day, and gradually built up over the weeks to where Im now at 4.5 drops/day. What I noticed was that MMS began to present with the same pattern as the Rife session. In short, I would immediately feel better, and then could feel somewhat worse for a while afterwards. These cycles were much shorter however. The MMS only stays in the system for about two hours; I noticed I could feel better for anywhere from 2 to 6 hours, but then might feel worse for the rest of the day. This eventually gave way to not feeling any worse at all afterwards.
At one point, I re-read in Bryan Rosners book that usually within six weeks or so, a person will start to occasionally feel significantly better for at least an hour or so; I wondered at the time whether that would happen for me. About 3-4 days later, I awoke, and felt good. As the morning wore on, I felt even better. I did a lot that day (by my standards), and seemed to sail through it all fairly well. By the end of the day, I realized I had done as much on other days, but on this particular day, I was able to do a lot and not feel totally spent, wired out and exhausted afterward. It was a hopeful sign, and Ive had a couple more similar days since then.
.........................................................
At one point however, when I was doing both Rife and MMS together, I experimented with doing a Rife session two days in a row. It ended up being my first experience where I felt I had definitely done too much. I woke up often that night with bad headaches which persisted into the next day. By morning I was quite nauseous as well, and totally out of it. I had various small boils breaking out, mostly on my legs. I also had some areas of itching I had experienced in the past at moderate levels (mostly in my feet and ankles), become much worse. That morning I had bad vertigo as well.
After feeling quite miserable for a couple hours, I got enough focus to prepare a clay foot bath for myself. Within an hour, I was feeling immensely better. I was still a bit weak, and my vertigo did hang on for a while longer, but I could be in bed and be quite comfortable. It was my first lesson in how much worse a herx reaction from too much Rife could become. It also gave me insights into how they might be managed.
These new insights had me getting more focused on my detoxification tools. I had been gradually doing more frequent Far Infrared (FIR) saunas (because my somewhat improved overall energy and functionality allowed it). I also now had the motivation to start doing epsom salt baths again, something I had often thought about doing more regularly over the years. They proved to feel good and effective, especially when any kind of herx reaction initiated a bit more pain in my body. Im now at the point where I do roughly 2 FIR saunas, 2 clay foot baths, and 2 epsom salt baths each week. I generally dont do anything at least one day a week to give things a break.
Regarding the skin itching I mentioned above, I read a short time later in the remarkable book, Cure Unknown - Inside the Lyme Epidemic, that Lyme bacteria can actually hide out in skin cells. It made sense to me, given how Ive experienced skin itching episodes over the years, and had them become worse right after doing a Rife session. It also made me realize why antibiotics do not work well for some Lyme patients. I think antibiotics normally work in the bloodstream and cant get into other areas of the body very well, the skin likely being one of them.
.........................................................
Theres so much information on this forum and online about Lyme testing. I never felt I had the combination of cognitive ability + energy + focus to justify making a huge effort to try to comprehend such detailed and intricate information. I had at least 2-3 negative tests over the years, but came to understand how notoriously unreliable conventional Lyme testing is. My most recent testing came back positive for Lyme and a number of co-infections, and I trusted my naturopathic doctor (ND) to interpret them as well as I ever could. Now, my Rife experiences have given me some additional perspectives on how to determine whether a person truly has Lyme or not. Doug McClain's story, who was purportedly the first person to cure himself of Lyme using electrical frequencies, illustrates my latest thinking quite well.
Doug was experimenting in his basement (around 1986) looking at Lyme spirochetes under a microscope and running various frequencies to see their effect on them. While running a certain frequency, he was able to watch the spirochetes literally explode before his eyes. It was a eureka moment for him. But the following morning brought another eureka moment. He felt absolutely miserable. He quickly realized he had exposed the spirochetes in his body to this frequency as well, and he was having a huge dieoff/herx reaction.
This story, plus my own experience, makes me think that somewhat of a marker for whether a person truly has Lyme or not would be to experiment with known effective Rife frequencies, and see if there is a significant reaction. Seems it could be just as reliable (or more) than some of the tests that are currently available. Since Rife machines can also kill various viruses, I think its possible that somebody with known viral infections/overloads could use Rife frequencies as well, and could have some similar experiences as mine with bacterial treatment. Ive read that viruses in general are easier to treat with Rife machines than bacteria.
Eventually, I plan to experiment with various Rife frequencies to target certain viruses, and use the above diagnostic criteria as somewhat of a barometer as to whether they are a problem for me or not. Not very scientific by most standards, but it seems to be the best choice for me. Its really difficult for me at this time to make doctor appointments, sit through them and try to stay focused, and followup afterwards. I still have paperwork for blood work that was given to me by my doctor several months ago. Just cant bring myself to make the expenditure of energy to pull it all off. Perhaps more upcoming good days will have me re-evaluating this strategy.
For the time being, I'll be staying focused on my current strategy of Rife and MMS. I feel it's working well, and is creating as much dieoff as I would want to tolerate at any given time. My next step might be to include (very gradually), a Salt C protocol.
...........................................................
One last tidbit: I met a local 40-year-old man recently (by phone only so far), who discovered only last year he probably has had Lyme since he was eight. His wife and three children all have it as well. They are now all treating themselves with the same GB4000 Rife machine I'm using. His wife has improved to the point where her immune system has now kicked in (a common occurrence after lowering Lyme bacteria levels to a certain point).
He also shared that after he tested positive, about 6-7 siblings/cousins he grew up with in Iowa have now all tested positive as well. All of them have chosen to purchase the GB4000, and are sharing notes with each other as they learn and progress. I anticipate him being a valuable resource for me as I move forward. As I get new insights from them and my own experiences, Ill try to pass them along with some much shorter posts! :Retro smile:
Best Regards, Wayne
. Sounds like you have an awful lot going on.
