I have reversed my kidney pain and glomerulonephritis

prioris

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I am reversing it with lumbrokinase, beta glucan and DHA
Took me 3+ years to figure this out, I don't use doctors.
Can finally sleep on my sides again
No more constant bulging lower back
My urination is visually clear of most bubbles and no sediment seen

If there is no infection then the pain is likely caused by blood flow problem.

Frustrating thing is that there is very little information on internet or hard to find.
Practically all the help info assumes one has infection.

If heat or LED therapy improves pain level, it is likely plaque build up.
I probably have some hypercoagulation
I also had food intolerance getting worse so was relegated to AIP diet but can eat most anything
I think as I age my immune system was getting worse

I take 4 500mg capsules of beta glucan first thing in morning
I take 1 capsule 3Xday of doctors best lumbrokinase
I take 1 or 2 capsules of DHA Omega3 Ultra vesisorb
 

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Two conditions that can have glomerulonephritis as a symtom in the absence of any infection (and these can both occur together) are renal Nutcracker Syndrome (NCS) and Loin Pain Hematuria Syndrome (LPHS).

LPHS rarely resolves with meds or supplements. It typically also involves significant debilitating pain over and above that of NCS so if this is absent, NCS would be a more likely suspect.

NCS can sometimes be heard as a bruit sound in your upper abdominal sounds when the left renal vein is significantly occluded.
 
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interesting ...

there is a real absence of information on non infection kidney pain on internet but curiously it gets reported
by many doctors that applying heat to kidney lessens pain ... you'd think they would make the connection and say that blood flow to kidney needs to be addressed with available remedies which nobody mentions ... ot's the same old remedies over and over

they have umpteen different names for arthritis because they aren't taught much about healing them
most of these different named arthritis conditions have the same cure

one can't get too caught up with the complex naming of these conditions. one has to experiment based on possible basic causes. the body has the ability to repair itself if given the right supplements and nutrients

the reason they name them syndromes is because they don't know sh... about them ... that's the tip off that they aren't the people who will have the answers ... they will always claim there is no proof that this or that will work ...

that's when the patient has to carry out the experiments on themselves but it requires persistence even in face of bleakness ... it would be so nice to have someone figure this all out for me while i just lie back and get fixed ... people with my problem either have to do it themselves or just go to dialysis and die
 

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there is a real absence of information on non infection kidney pain on internet but curiously it gets reported by many doctors that applying heat to kidney lessens pain
Yeah, heat is a natural vasodilator and many people with NCS (myself included) get pain relief of pain this way.
you'd think they would make the connection and say that blood flow to kidney needs to be addressed with available remedies which nobody mentions
It's the return blood flow from the kidney rather than the inflow that causes issues with NCS. An occluded left renal vein causes increased venous pressures that can back up into the left kidney and cause hematuria. Tadalafil (Cialis, as a longer acting version of Viagra), as a vasodilator, is one of those little known remedies for this, but is still just a bandaid measure.
 

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Yeah, heat is a natural vasodilator and many people with NCS (myself included) get pain relief of pain this way.

It's the return blood flow from the kidney rather than the inflow that causes issues with NCS. An occluded left renal vein causes increased venous pressures that can back up into the left kidney and cause hematuria. Tadalafil (Cialis, as a longer acting version of Viagra), as a vasodilator, is one of those little known remedies for this, but is still just a bandaid measure.
venous insufficiency is addressed with these remedies
Micronized Diosmin Hesperin
Mesoglycan

at the moment I am dealing with venous insufficiency especially my leg so in the process of addressing the returning flow ... i will nip these problems in the bud too
 

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I suffered a recurrent UTI kidney infection that I had had for over 10 years. Antibiotics such as trimethoprim kept the UTI recurrences at bay, but as soon as I stopped taking the antibiotics, the infection would recur (flare up).

I finally was able to keep it fully under control, with no more no flare ups, using an old Roman treatment for UTIs: horsetail herb (contains silica), which modulates glomerular function in the kidneys. More info in this post.
 

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interesting ... do you know what infection was

when i first got hit, i assumed infection and tried all sorts of stuff ... i did have some blood in urine but still in supposed normal range ... eventually i had lab check for infection which found none ... so was mystified
tried lots of things for nonexistent UTI infection ... lol
i took a lot of mannose during that time
proanthocyanidins seems to cure uti's too
even tried amoxicillin and bromelain which i do ok on without side effects

The silica I have experimented with just for heck of it is JarrowSil ... bioactive stabilized silicic acid, the kind the body uses ... also unlike biosil, tastes ok ... hair and nails grew well ... i like that i just put some drops in water and drink ... herbs can be a double edged sword ...

silica is critical nutrient in creating flexible strong bones ... without it, bones are brittle so many bone scans are misleading people ... it creates a collagen matrix on bone where calcium gets laid

They claim all sorts of things are toxic to kidneys ... given that most doctors don't intend to heal the kidney or got them on dialysis ... at that point sure .... but i took all sorts of things that were suppose to be detrimental to kidneys ... i become suspicious when they say it about nutrients ... people who die from kidney disease usually die from a heart attack
 

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at the moment I am dealing with venous insufficiency especially my leg so in the process of addressing the returning flow ... i will nip these problems in the bud too
It's not unusual with NCS to also have iliac vein compression as well (May Thurner Syndrome) but either one can contribute to venous insufficiency in the leg too. Most commonly the left leg but depending on what other varicosities occur in the pelvis, either (or both) leg/s can be affected depending on which vein/s is/are occluded.
 

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It's not unusual with NCS to also have iliac vein compression as well (May Thurner Syndrome) but either one can contribute to venous insufficiency in the leg too. Most commonly the left leg but depending on what other varicosities occur in the pelvis, either (or both) leg/s can be affected depending on which vein/s is/are occluded.
interesting
syndromes by definition can't be cured or addressed because it presents a disease as a supposed mystery but underlying problems that make it up can. i just treat the underlying problems one by one just like me/cfids. i am 64 years old. millions of people have same vein problems but don't have the syndrome. underlying vein problems are no mystery so hopefully within a couple weeks i get leg vein problem in both legs under control. i am waiting for another supplement to come in mail.
 

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syndromes by definition can't be cured or addressed because it presents a disease as a supposed mystery
For the cases in point here though, "syndromes" of the vascular compression variety do have a physical and identifiable cause via imaging and the syndrome part of the equation means only that different people have different and/or varying other symptoms as a consequence, so not invisible like other things such as CFS or IBS for instance.
 

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I take 4 500mg capsules of beta glucan first thing in morning
I take 1 capsule 3Xday of doctors best lumbrokinase
I take 1 or 2 capsules of DHA Omega3 Ultra vesisorb
Could you please explain how each of these is contributing to resolving your problems?
 

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Could you please explain how each of these is contributing to resolving your problems?
I can only give my best guess

I would add that I think serrapeptase is also important just to address scarring. It is only known supplement that does that. It is scarring that will impede healing so I kept taking this on and off the 3+ years. I think magnesium is important. The thing that will cause damage will be nutritional deficiencies. Until I found a solution to swelling, I tried to make sure I didn't become deficient in critical nutrients.

DHA is well known supplement for kidney glomerular inflammation. This alone has helped many people.

If you notice when they talk about kidney disease, they kind of talk around the cause by mentioning blood sugar and blood pressure. Blood pressure is a symptom, not a cause. Blood sugar the same so they really don't tell you anything useful except take your pharma medications hence never healing them,. They also never mention that people who die of kidney failure, die of a heart attack. So they are kind of lying to people or too brainwashed.

Kidney problems seems to be a heart disease problem ... an artery and vein degeneration problem amd / or with plaque/hardening build up. You have to address these core issues to address kidney disease I think.

Natural things that get recommended tend to be things which address heart disease area. One of the recommended supplement is L-carnitine. Well that helps generate nitric oxide which helps protects the arteries.

Lumbrokinase helps with blood flow. Any supplement e.g. mesoglycan, pomegranate, vhoindritin sulfate, diosmin and more that can heal arteries and veins may help kidney disease.

Swanson Beta Right beta glucan (best glucan out there according to one study comparing many) helps with immune system. My kidneys became a little stronger. I became sensitive to many foods. This removed many food sensitivities too.
 

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Baking soda is another thing that is saving peoples kidneys. I see that as number one remedy for people in general. I did try the baking soda, water and formulas to no avail. I'm not using it at the moment. This may address calcium build up in kidneys.

Are the acids causing calcium to build up and harden along the blood path ways. I don't know but one has to assume it as a real possibility because we know it can cause problems in arteries. Kidney disease predominantly happens more as people age so something is either accumulating or degenerating. Calcium build up in kidneys may be why magnesium, water and kidney cleanse formulas are useful too. I do think it is important in mitigating potential damage. It may be important in curing some aspect of the total problem. Serrapeptase may not cure kidney disease but dissolving the scar tissue needs to be done before degeneration can be stopped and healing accomplished. Baking soda may cure some people but it may just be one of the steps for other people.

Each person has to decide how they want to attack their kidney problems with available tools. I try to add to the tool box.
 

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I've had right kidney pain off and on for over 30 years. I had IVP testing when it first started and it revealed nothing, and no sign of infection. It got better after I quit smoking and started drinking filtered water but it's still my achilles heel. I've found that drinking lemon juice in water helps a lot. I don't know why but it does. If I drink a couple of glasses of water with a healthy dose of lemon juice in it, by the next day the pain is generally just about gone.

I'm guessing the lemon juice flushes out my kidney. I'm thinking it may have trouble filtering what it is supposed to filter, which might indicate a blood flow problem as discussed above. I may look into the serrapeptase. I had a severe kidney infection when I was 20, and this has plagued me ever since. So maybe there is some scarring from the infection. But the lemon juice does keep the symptoms at bay.

I tried horsetail once (I forget why) not knowing it was a diuretic, and it caused my potassium to tank. It took me a little while to figure out what was going on. So just something to be aware of.
 

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Mary ... that seems like the way i'd go too ... i'd focus on dissolving possible scarring ... maybe do high dose serrapeptase over time and a little nattokinase to see what happens ... experiment
 

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Mary ... that seems like the way i'd go too ... i'd focus on dissolving possible scarring ... maybe do high dose serrapeptase over time and a little nattokinase to see what happens ... experiment
Thanks @pioris - definitely worth a try!

Here's a posting tip you might not be aware of - it's a good idea to put the "@" sign in front of a user's name as I did with yours or like this: @Mary - that way the person you're responding to will receive an alert that you have tagged them. Otherwise they have no way of knowing you're responding, unless you hit the "reply" link under their post when you reply to them. :nerd: If you hit the "reply" link, they'll also get an alert.
 

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Thanks @pioris - definitely worth a try!

Here's a posting tip you might not be aware of - it's a good idea to put the "@" sign in front of a user's name as I did with yours or like this: @Mary - that way the person you're responding to will receive an alert that you have tagged them. Otherwise they have no way of knowing you're responding, unless you hit the "reply" link under their post when you reply to them. :nerd: If you hit the "reply" link, they'll also get an alert.
Oh I didn't know that ... I will next time
 

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I've found that drinking lemon juice in water helps a lot. I don't know why but it does.
It might be acting in the same way as baking soda, by alkalizing your urine. I take baking soda twice per day due to my acidic urine. If my urine pH drops below 6 I tend to feel it in my kidneys. I've read that urine pH below six is so acidic that it's basically dissolving kidney tissue. I've seen mine go as low as 5.3.
 

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It might be acting in the same way as baking soda, by alkalizing your urine. I take baking soda twice per day due to my acidic urine. If my urine pH drops below 6 I tend to feel it in my kidneys. I've read that urine pH below six is so acidic that it's basically dissolving kidney tissue. I've seen mine go as low as 5.3.
Wow - that's a little scary, urine so acidic that it dissolves kidney tissue! But I don't think acidity is the issue with me - it's only one kidney that hurts and I'm pretty positive this is the kidney that was infected when I was 20 (it's been awhile)

I know lemon juice can be alkalinizing but it's also cleansing. But it's probably worth an experiment to see if baking soda helps in the same way lemon juice does - thanks @PatJ!