Have I just stumbled on the best possible therapy for CFS/ME/POTS sufferers?

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Had a visit with my pain specialist on a follow up "failed" morphine pain pump trial today..

And she suggested that we try a P-STIM trial if insurance will approve..

I just despairingly said, yeah I guess so..

So I left the office with my head down thinking this will be just another failure.
Until I read the brochure that is..

OK,
First off,P-STIM is basically a super technologically advanced pinpoint accurate acupuncture device that you wear on your neck with 3 electrodes attached to your ear for 4 days that reduces pain anywhere on your body
significantly,by stimulating endorphin production..

However,

The pain claim is not what sold me..

What sold me hook line and sinker is..

P-STIM increases arterial blood flow and oxygenation up to 60% through vasodilatation!!!

And it can stimulate the Vagus nerve!!

Now if this is true..

This will be the best treatment for CFS/ME/POTS beyond light years compared to all other treatments/therapy
to date!!

P-STIM it is a combining of Ancient Knowledge with the innovative technology from Austria that provides non-drug treatment ofacute and chronic pain with no side effects! Furthermore, P-STIM increases circulation and oxygenation of the blood about 50-60% through vasodilatation.


Professionals know, that "where is the blood-there is a life", so P-STIM is not only a painkiller, but it can also treat complex diseases, such as – gangrene and other acute and chronic pain like: lower back, neck, chest, back, stomach, knees, shoulders and postoperative pain.


Pulse Stimulation Treatment (P-STIM™) is patented with FDA, CE, TUV certificates.


The microchip P-STIM is placed behind the ear of the patient, the acupuncture in corresponding points and the pulses are transmitted through the stimulating needle. With the help of P-STIM, the patients are receiving continuous treatment for 4-5 days. Thanks to its tiny size and weight only 7 grams, the device does not limit the activity of the patient, because the power is supplied by battery.
 

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Had a visit with my pain specialist on a follow up "failed" morphine pain pump trial today..

And she suggested that we try a P-STIM trial if insurance will approve..

I just despairingly said, yeah I guess so..

So I left the office with my head down thinking this will be just another failure.
Until I read the brochure that is..

OK,
First off,P-STIM is basically a super technologically advanced pinpoint accurate acupuncture device that you wear on your neck with 3 electrodes attached to your ear for 4 days that reduces pain anywhere on your body
significantly,by stimulating endorphin production..

However,

The pain claim is not what sold me..

What sold me hook line and sinker is..

P-STIM increases arterial blood flow and oxygenation up to 60% through vasodilatation!!!

And it can stimulate the Vagus nerve!!

Now if this is true..

This will be the best treatment for CFS/ME/POTS beyond light years compared to all other treatments/therapy
to date!!
@Tired of being sick Is this something a regular acupuncturist could have access to, and administer?
 
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^ I Don't know..
My insurance denied it so I'm sure it probably works wonders..

Only commercial insurance covers this P-STIM procedure..

Medicaid/Medicare will not cover it period..

However, if you have $960.00 laying around you can purchase one treatment...
 

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I could not find any links to research papers on the P-STIM website, only a handful of testimonials. Where are they getting the data that the P-STIM can increase circulation of the blood about 50-60%, treat gangrene and treat chronic pain?
 

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Here are some studies I found in their brochure:
http://www.p-stim.com.ua/files/pstimbrochure.pdf

The short- and long-term benefit in chronic low back pain through adjuvant electrical versus manual auricular acupuncture.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15105215
Abstract
Acupuncture is an established adjuvant analgesic modality for the treatment of chronic pain. Electrical stimulation of acupuncture points is considered to increase acupuncture analgesia. In this prospective, randomized, double-blind, controlled study we tested the hypothesis that auricular electroacupuncture (EA) relieves pain more effectively than conventional manual auricular acupuncture (CO) in chronic low back pain patients with insufficient pain relief (visual analogue scale [VAS] > or = 5) treated with standardized analgesic therapy. Disposable acupuncture needles were inserted in the auricular acupuncture points 29, 40, and 55 of the dominant side and connected to a newly developed battery-powered miniaturized stimulator worn behind the ear. Patients were randomized into group EA (n = 31) with continuous low-frequency auricular EA (1 Hz biphasic constant current of 2 mA) and group CO (n = 30) without electrical stimulation (sham-electroacupuncture). Treatment was performed once weekly for 6 wk, and in each group needles were withdrawn 48 h after insertion. During the study period and a 3-mo follow-up, patients were asked to complete the McGill questionnaire. Psychological well being, activity level, quality of sleep, and pain intensity were assessed by means of VAS; moreover, analgesic drug consumption was documented. Pain relief was significantly better in group EA during the study and the follow-up period as compared with group CO. Similarly, psychological well-being, activity, and sleep were significantly improved in group EA versus group CO, the consumption of analgesic rescue medication was less, and more patients returned to full-time employment. Neuropathic pain in particular improved in patients treated with EA. There were no adverse side effects. These results are the first to demonstrate that continuous EA stimulation of auricular acupuncture points improves the treatment of chronic low back pain in an outpatient population.

IMPLICATIONS:
Continuous electrical stimulation of auricular acupuncture points using the new point stimulation device P-stim significantly decreases pain intensity and improves psychological well-being, activity, and sleep in chronic low back pain patients.
Electrical stimulation of auricular acupuncture points is more effective than conventional manual auricular acupuncture in chronic cervical pain: a pilot study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14570667

Abstract
In this prospective, randomized, double-blinded, controlled study, we tested the hypothesis that auricular electroacupuncture relieves pain more effectively than conventional manual auricular acupuncture. We studied 21 chronic cervical pain patients without radicular symptoms with insufficient pain relief (visual analogue scale >5) treated with standardized analgesic therapy. All patients received disposable acupuncture needles on the dominant side on the following acupuncture points: cervical spine, shen men, and cushion. In 10 patients, needles were continuously stimulated (2-mA constant current, 1 Hz monophasic) by using the electrical point stimulation device P-STIM. In 11 control patients, no electrical stimulation was administered. All needles were withdrawn 48 h after insertion. Acupuncture was performed once a week for 6 wk. Patients had to complete a questionnaire assessing pain intensity, psychological well-being, activity, sleep, and demand for rescue medication (lornoxicam and tramadol). The reduction in pain scores was significant in the electrical acupuncture group. Similarly, psychological well-being, activity, and sleep were significantly improved in patients receiving electrical acupuncture, and consumption of rescue medication was significantly less. These results demonstrate that continuous electrical stimulation of auricular acupuncture points by using the new point stimulation device P-STIM improves the treatment of chronic cervical pain in an outpatient population.

IMPLICATIONS:
Continuous electrical stimulation of auricular acupuncture points by using the new point stimulation device P-STIM significantly decreases pain intensity and significantly improves psychological well-being, activity, and sleep in chronic cervical pain patients.
 

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Here's a forum discussion of some patients who tried the device:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread190071.html

I couldn't find any pricing information for the P-STIM. While looking for that info, I came across a device called a Neurova NeuroStimulator that claims to work in a similar fashion for $295. Here's the explanation for the switch:
http://neurostimulator.weebly.com

http://www.chronicpaintherapy.com/neurova-neurostimulator.html
It looks like a doctor's prescription for the device would be necessary.

Here's a page that shows where to apply the device:
http://www.chronicpaintherapy.com/live-pain-free.html

This looks like it would be a bit challenging to do by yourself.
 
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I recently read that the mineral lithium (often sold as orotate or aspartate) has been shown to increase circulation to the brain. Also, apparently, experiments have demonstrated lithium supplementation increases grey matter in the brain by as much as 3-5% within 30 days in 80% of the participants. --- It might be a cheaper way to support brain circulation for those with budgetary constraints that really don't allow for being able to purchase a device costing hundreds of dollars.
 

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Thanks for those links to the research, @CFS_for_19_years.

The interesting thing in the P-STIM video was the use of that pen-shaped device to measure the electrical resistance of the ear, looking for the points where the electrical resistance is at a minimum, which signifies a high density of nerve endings (and thus the best place to insert the tiny electroacupuncture needles).

It would be very useful to have just that electrical resistance device, to work out the location of these nerve hotspots of the ear. That way, even if you were using some other ear electroacupuncture system, you would know where the best spots on the ear are to place the needles or electrodes.
 

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I think that I may have had this treatment or at least one very much like it.

The name was familiar to me when I read this thread and when I looked at the devices they looked familiar. Also some of the information on line and using around the ear / head. Must have been through one of my acupuncturists.
 
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I just sent an email to:



On how I could go about recommending the start of a clinical trial study using P-STIM to treat:
POTS/CFS/ME//fibromyalgia/chronic pain syndrome/and CEBV with POTS at the forefront..

Why?

POTS is text book Vagus nerve dysfunction in my book..

The Vegas nerve's responsibilities are to regulate heart function rate blood flow/breathing/body temperature/and the entire digestive system all of which have absolutely gone haywire on myself personally since child hood..

How many of you would be interested in a P-STIM clinical trial for all of the above if the trial would become available?.
 

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I just sent an email to:



On how I could go about recommending the start of a clinical trial study using P-STIM to treat:
POTS/CFS/ME//fibromyalgia/chronic pain syndrome/and CEBV with POTS at the forefront..

Why?

POTS is text book Vagus nerve dysfunction in my book..

The Vegas nerve's responsibilities are to regulate heart function rate blood flow/breathing/body temperature/and the entire digestive system all of which have absolutely gone haywire on myself personally since child hood..

How many of you would be interested in a P-STIM clinical trial for all of the above if the trial would become available?.
Count me in.
 

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I have the Healthpoint EA device and it also has an auricular stimulator. It's the original hand held electro-acupuncture device designed by Dr. Julian Jessel Kenyon, who also treats M.E. patients at his clinic. It's fairly easy to treat ear points. I bought it for £2.50 at a car boot sale, but I was lucky as they're £200 plus new, though I've seen them go for much cheaper on ebay. I'm probably missing something but I don't see how the P-STIM could be better? This might be a cheaper and more accessible option. The auricular stimulator is used for longer periods.
 

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I just sent an email to:



On how I could go about recommending the start of a clinical trial study using P-STIM to treat:
POTS/CFS/ME//fibromyalgia/chronic pain syndrome/and CEBV with POTS at the forefront..

Why?

POTS is text book Vagus nerve dysfunction in my book..

The Vegas nerve's responsibilities are to regulate heart function rate blood flow/breathing/body temperature/and the entire digestive system all of which have absolutely gone haywire on myself personally since child hood..

How many of you would be interested in a P-STIM clinical trial for all of the above if the trial would become available?.
Do you know if this is being considered for a clinical trial for pots/cfs/me
 

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I have the Healthpoint EA device and it also has an auricular stimulator. It's the original hand held electro-acupuncture device designed by Dr. Julian Jessel Kenyon, who also treats M.E. patients at his clinic. It's fairly easy to treat ear points. I bought it for £2.50 at a car boot sale, but I was lucky as they're £200 plus new, though I've seen them go for much cheaper on ebay. I'm probably missing something but I don't see how the P-STIM could be better? This might be a cheaper and more accessible option. The auricular stimulator is used for longer periods.
@manna did this help you? What specifically were you using it for if you don't mind me asking?