Has anyone had success with Herpes family viruses without western medicine?
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Chinese tradtional herbs have helped me reduce the intensity of symptoms. I've not been cured...nor have I ever done antiviral herbs per se.
Do you mean in the context of ME/CFS? Or treating a herpes condition when it occurred?
I treated two breakouts of Shingles (Herpes Zoster) in myself in 2000 with herbal medicines and lessened the duration of the illness, with no post-herpetic pain.
I treated two breakouts of Shingles (Herpes Zoster) in myself in 2000 with herbal medicines and lessened the duration of the illness, with no post-herpetic pain.
Contrary to popular belief, Australian researchers discovered the herpes virus remains active in the body even when there are no symptoms. Instead of thinking the virus erupts during times of stress, we can now say cold sore flare ups occur when our immune system is weakened (eg. due to stress) allowing the virus to get the upper hand in the eternal war going on inside our bodies.
With that knowledge I found that by continuing to take L-Lysine (even after cold sores had vanished) the severity of flare ups decreased to none at all; over a period of 1-2 years I was able to reduce my L-Lysine dose to 1 tablet (1000mg) per day and eventually to 1 per week. Since L-Lysine is an essential amino-acid I will not be reducing that dose any further. I have gone 5+ years without a single cold sore.
For more information see: Lysine, Natural Amino Acid Fights Herpes
If you're needing to take multiple tablets it's best to spread your intake evenly over the whole day.
With that knowledge I found that by continuing to take L-Lysine (even after cold sores had vanished) the severity of flare ups decreased to none at all; over a period of 1-2 years I was able to reduce my L-Lysine dose to 1 tablet (1000mg) per day and eventually to 1 per week. Since L-Lysine is an essential amino-acid I will not be reducing that dose any further. I have gone 5+ years without a single cold sore.
For more information see: Lysine, Natural Amino Acid Fights Herpes
If you're needing to take multiple tablets it's best to spread your intake evenly over the whole day.
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Do we know that herpes trigger PEM?
This is a good question.Im not sure
it seems that some individuals have PEM improvement from Av's and reducing the viral loads but there are also many instances where this isnt the case
Hypotheically what else can trigger PEM in active hepatic infections like ebv,cmv?
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so cold sores are pretty common...MECFS is far less common. My version is likely Eppstein Barr- based- which is a herpes virus.
Do folks who get cold sores- get other symptoms like we have? Like PEM? I think not- this being based mostly on me knowing folks in college who tended to get cold sores- aren't ill with chronic stuff like this.
So...that makes me wonder about a lysine fix....for ME
Do folks who get cold sores- get other symptoms like we have? Like PEM? I think not- this being based mostly on me knowing folks in college who tended to get cold sores- aren't ill with chronic stuff like this.
So...that makes me wonder about a lysine fix....for ME
@Davsey27 I've been seeing a TCM herbalist. I didn't go for herpes or ME, but the herbs he put me on have been very helpful, have improved my foundation. When I've had herpes during this time of seeing him, he uses it as a data point for how I'm doing, changes the formula when needed. I used to take olive leaf extract for it, but he told me it's too cooling. So these days I just use lysine. good luck.
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Have you improved in general or in terms of outbreaks?
I once had a cold sore(I think)
Small dots in my mouth
That I recall a couple of years ago for a few days and tested positive for hsv1.I have never had any outbreaks
since and I wasn't doing any treatment for it.
I have had cut looking lines on the forehead and other parts of the body coming and going(possibly varicella)
Other than this no other manifestations on herpes on the the skin that I'm aware of.
Though it may possible it's in the cns and may be contributing to PEM
Small dots in my mouth
That I recall a couple of years ago for a few days and tested positive for hsv1.I have never had any outbreaks
since and I wasn't doing any treatment for it.
I have had cut looking lines on the forehead and other parts of the body coming and going(possibly varicella)
Other than this no other manifestations on herpes on the the skin that I'm aware of.
Though it may possible it's in the cns and may be contributing to PEM
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I have found that olive leaf extract has been very effective in treating cold sores (HSV-1).
There is some evidence that it can be considered to have broad spectrum antiviral properties. See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32050880/ and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=olive+leaf+extract+antiviral
It was one of the few herbs that noticeably helped my ME/CFS, reducing fatigue by about 5 percent (my estimate).
There is some evidence that it can be considered to have broad spectrum antiviral properties. See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32050880/ and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=olive+leaf+extract+antiviral
It was one of the few herbs that noticeably helped my ME/CFS, reducing fatigue by about 5 percent (my estimate).