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A raising HRV together with fallen Heartrate, could that also be a red flag. I just got a crash, but I don't think it was from that, now the data is what it use to be again..
Garmin HRV + Heartrate
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You are getting some really high heartrate spikes. I think that will cause a crash. Can you modify your activities to avoid these spikes?
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My resting HR is about 55 to 60. A heartrate up to 100 would crash me, This low heartrate looks just like mine, so I'm guessing that the same HR spike that would crash me would crash @Denmark 81.
Yeah, I think to a degree that's why I always feel crashed. I'm sitting at my desk with a cup of mild green tea - Garmin says HR is 102. (I've tried cutting out green tea - maybe drops my HR by 5 or so, but I enjoy it more than that 5 BPM feels worth it.)
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I'd cut out the sitting up rather than the tea. Being vertical is the number one thing that messes me up.
Same, but there's only so much I can do lying in bed because my phone hurts my eyes more than a big screen, and I can't type lying down.
So it's lie in bed 24/7 and do nothing - feel physically a bit better (keeps my heart rate 10-15 lower during the day), but mentally go insane.
Or sit at a desk for a few hours at a time - feel physically worse, but mentally able to post on forums, read the news, etc.
No good answers.
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Yes. I'm often struck that what's good for our physical health is bad for our mental health and vice versa.
Are you able to get up and down from the desk, so that you are there for an hour and then rest in bed or does that involve too much activity getting up and down?
I am trying to do better at the resting part.
This is exactly what I do. I also have a stool so if I'm watching something on the computer, I can put my feet up and take a little break. If I sit for a few hours, then sometimes I need to go lie down for a few hours. That's basically my range of 'good' and bad days - a good day means I can sit at the computer without having to lie down, a bad day means I'm in bed the whole day. It varies between those two.
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What happens if you do shorter chunks? For example, up for one hour/down for an hour, rather than up for three hours and then down for three?
For me, being vertical for too long at a stretch would put me in bed for days. Up for 5 minutes means down for 1 hour, but up for 1 hour means down for days. There comes a point where the payback requires too much time, even if what I am doing is worth the cost.
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For me, it doesn't really matter on most days. On the days it does matter, I usually just stay in bad. If I push myself in other ways, then I try to lie down as soon as possible to make the crash less severe.
While sitting upright might raise my HR from 85 to 100, it doesn't affect how I feel the next day very much. Listening to music for 30 mins while lying it bad - that will crash me. Scrolling the internet while sitting at my desk - usually okay. So it's cognitive engagement that seems to correlate with crashes.
Lying in bed for a few extra days makes me feel slightly better - but it just means that instead of 20 mins on the phone, I can do 30 mins on the phone. None of the benefits seem to last or accumulate.
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That's this disease all over, isn't it? At some point, nothing seems to help.
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They are not that high, it's just some 2 cycling
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Zone 2 I mean