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Found a source of B12 comparable to injection that only contains the 2 active forms + pure water.

JES

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B12 is stored in the liver to a certain extent, so if you stop B12 today and provided that you have an adequate amount of B12 stored in the liver, you would indeed not run out very quickly (not sure if as long as 5-7 years).

But of course that assumes your body is absorbing B12 well enough to keep a decent amount stored in the liver in the first place, which only a blood test can confirm.
 

CSMLSM

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I read an odd sentence online which stated if you stopped your B[12, it would take 5-7 year for your body to run out,
From what I can remember it is approminately 24 months in a healthy individual from a fully repleted state to deficiency if no B12 is consumed.

This is because B12 is recycled via enterohepatic circulation. Used B12 gets excreted into the bile and then it is reabsorbed when the bile is reabsorbed in the intestines.

This is why I became deficient because I was suffering from cholestasis (lack of bile flow/production).

I am now treating myself for this with TUDCA, ox bile and digestive enzymes.

The digestive enzymes are required because I think I have pancreatic insufficiency due to the cholestasis causing pancreatitis repeatedly for at least 10 years.

I have had a CT scan recently that did not show anything obvious to worry about and I am waiting on a faecal elastase test looking for lack of digestive enzymes/pancreatic insufficiency.

Given how I respond to my treatment with digestive enzymes and what happens when I stop, I am quite certain it will come back that I am lacking enzymes.
 

CSMLSM

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Just had my 7th oxford biosciences vitamin B12 shot.

Since starting them I have not stopped working on my garden and have become quite exhausted yet no PEM to speak of.

Still taking CBD and copaiba via my vape pen. Yesterday I did not take the copaiba because what I had mixed up had run out and I was very busy so did not bother with it.

Feel better today since taking. My memory had been starting to play up but it is now fine again.

Currently eating at least 4 eggs a day for the amino acids to build muscle.

My physical structure is changing and I am bigger than last year since taking the TUDCA, ox bile and digestive enzymes.

I could not seem to put on much weight last year and this was likely because of the cholestasis and pancreatic insufficiency.

I just weighed myself and I am 12 stone which is much higher than last year.

Muscle is starting to increase and I have been able to lift 100L bags of compost.

I am still doing fasting but not all the time and I have lots of energy.

Got loads of plants and seedlings coming along and have grand plans for the vegetable plot with larger space now and large 60L pots for on the concrete base to make better use of it.
 

CSMLSM

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Been in the garden working since my vitamin B12 shot earlier and had a bath when I came in, about 30mins ago I got out and I am about to start cooking dinner.

I feel great and do not feel any PEM.

For me at least I have figured out how to completely silence the me/cfs and fibromyalgia.

Copaiba, CBD and figuring out why I was having issues with vitamin B12, along with addressing things like lack of magnesium, vitamin D and omega 3 has given me my health back.

All that is left to do is improve my physical strength and get in shape.

Time will be needed to see if this can translate to an actual cure and not be something that I have to manage for the rest of my life, I am happy either way though.
 

CSMLSM

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Just had 10th B12 shot.

I have not stopped being active doing lots of physical work 8+ hours everyday in the garden, while cooking dinner most days, having baths most days and not having PEM.

My stamina and strength are improving while my mind is clear and active.

Muscles are aching but mostly fine the next day as I am very out of shape, although last years period of wellness and activity has given me a bit of a help in that regard.

If I forget to vape my CBD and copaiba I start to lose energy but am fine once I start vaping again soon after.

I have done so much in the last few weeks I am struggling to believe it.
 

Rufous McKinney

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the bottle of B-12 I ordered from Colorado arrived (via shipping from Idaho). This brand seems very good, pricy but very PURE.

I attempted to imbibe less than 1 drop.

I injured my neck, need acupuncture, but haven't called because I feel so lousy at the moment, plus head aches more, and actually taking ibuprofen which I try to avoid (for the pain in my neck)...so now Head Ache seems to be coming on.

I think I just have so many symptoms of crap happening, tracking responses to anything is complex. I need my own AI.