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Mycoplasma needs to be treated for years 4-5 , with antibiotics......it cant be get rid off in 4-5 months,prolonged treatment is needed for years.....mycoplasma can even replicated outside host cell,it can be alive outside your body for few hours......so it can be very contagious .....its a cofactor of AIDS ,may be thats why people here getting symptoms like aids,and confusing it to be hiv like........BUT, I'M SURE GUESS WILL BE THIS PATHOGEN AMONG CHINESE AND MANY OTHER FRIENDS HERE IS MYCOPLASMA.....READ THE LINK I POSTED IN THIS PAGE,TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS DEADLY PATHOGEN
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Ron did you or anyone try to contact the following virology centers? Since this is unknown virus, we should focus on virologist not standard doctors, this is above their knowledge

Center for Virology at Mount Sinai School of Medicine
Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10029

College of Veterinary Medicine & Biological Sciences
105 Infectious Disease Annex
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

Gladstone Institute of Virology & Immunology
1650 Owens Street
San Francisco, CA 94158

Institute of Human Virology
725 West Lombard Street
Baltimore, MD 21201

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
615 North Wolfe Street
Baltimore, MD 21205

University of Maryland
22 S. Greene Street
Baltimore, MD 21201

The Scripps Research Institute
10550 N. Torrey Pines Road
La Jolla, CA 92037

U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command
504 Scott Street
Fort Detrick, MD 21702

U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases
1425 Porter Street
Frederick, MD 21702

University of Michigan
Medical Sciences Research Bldg. III
1150 West Medical Center Drive
Ann Arbor, MI 48109

UTMB - Galveston National Laboratory
301 University Boulevard
Galveston, TX 77555

Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
503 Robert Grant Avenue
Silver Spring, MD 20910​
 
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I have mycoplasma, I tried Antibiotics, would not go away, I do not know if its this that is giving me all my symptoms, I would like to know what happened to those in gulf who were successfully treated for mycoplasma, we need some testimonials

who else have mycoplasma, and any success in treating it, i do not know what strain i caught
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Ive only ever been tested once for only one type of mycoplasma after a specialists once heard the reactiving cough I get when Ive over done things (they usually dont get to hear it when that happens as the cough usually happens at night or with drafts)....note there are many kinds of mycoplasma. I came back negative for mycoplasma pneumonia... Im hoping to be tested for the various forms of mycoplasma within the next 6 mths.

Im currently looking into lyme..suspecting now that I have that (I sooo fit the symptoms of that and one of the lyme coexising diseases) but on top of that would of picked up coexisting infections as well (I thou still wouldnt know how I transmitted CFS to my sister throu saliva if its lyme). Hopefully will get a lyme test done within the next week or two (I have the path. form for it..just need to pay for it before I can get test done).
 
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Ron.. that first link www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q222111.html

(and probably the others too but I didnt read those) is a very good example of how doctors ignore our symptoms and just dont "hear" what we are saying.

The drs reply to the poor guy was
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Hello there- I have no reason to believe that either you or your child have HIV infection. It is sad to me that you have been living with this and torturing yourself for the past 14 years. I would try very hard to move one from this and if you can't I would consider talking with a professional about your feelings. Take care, LHW "

it shows how powerful the psych lobby has been when a person goes into a doctor with just an illness they dont know what it is.. and they basically suggest a psych ("consider talking to a professional about your FEELINGS").

Unfortunately this situation is about to get a whole lot worst when the new DSM comes out (is it in May?).
 
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Ive only ever been tested once for only one type of mycoplasma after a specialists once heard the reactiving cough I get when Ive over done things (they usually dont get to hear it when that happens as the cough usually happens at night or with drafts)....note there are many kinds of mycoplasma. I came back negative for mycoplasma pneumonia... Im hoping to be tested for the various forms of mycoplasma within the next 6 mths.

Im currently looking into lyme..suspecting now that I have that (I sooo fit the symptoms of that and one of the lyme coexising diseases) but on top of that would of picked up coexisting infections as well (I thou still wouldnt know how I transmitted CFS to my sister throu saliva if its lyme). Hopefully will get a lyme test done within the next week or two (I have the path. form for it..just need to pay for it before I can get test done).
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There are reports about mycoplasma fermentrans going this bad thing to us. Do you know people who have tested positive for this?
 
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Ron.. that first link www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q222111.html

(and probably the others too but I didnt read those) is a very good example of how doctors ignore our symptoms and just dont "hear" what we are saying.

The drs reply to the poor guy was
"Response from Dr. Hightow-Weidman

Hello there- I have no reason to believe that either you or your child have HIV infection. It is sad to me that you have been living with this and torturing yourself for the past 14 years. I would try very hard to move one from this and if you can't I would consider talking with a professional about your feelings. Take care, LHW "

it shows how powerful the psych lobby has been when a person goes into a doctor with just an illness they dont know what it is.. and they basically suggest a psych ("consider talking to a professional about your FEELINGS").

Unfortunately this situation is about to get a whole lot worst when the new DSM comes out (is it in May?).
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Ask the Dr if giving them some of this person`s blood will have a viral effect on them or its just in the mind?? I am sure they will not take the chance!!
 
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www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q222111.html

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Labs/Q6690.html

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q210190.html?ic=2003

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Labs/Q6841.html?ic=2003

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q220169.html

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Meds/Q147570.html?ic=2003

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q224750.html

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q219812.html
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Viral symptoms and HIV negative, I believe these doctors treating us like mental illness should be asked if given the blood of this patient, would the dr experience a mental illness or a real viral illness, I bet if they got it they will know its not in the mind
 
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taniaaust1 READ ALL THE LINKS , EACH STORIES ARE UNIQUE EXAMPLE, WHERE THE PATIENTS THINK THEY HAVE HIV LIKE VIRUS .

8eraser8 doctors are helpless. What can they do ,if its not yet discovered ??only a researcher can help then.
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ronR Researchers like virologist, who specialise in virus can help us to find this new virus, mycoplasmologist will help with mycoplasma
 
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ronR do u know of anyone who is in their first 3 weeks of infection, I need the acute phase blood from the 3rd week to be able to ask a virologist to test it
 
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ronR do u know of anyone who is in their first 3 weeks of infection, I need the acute phase blood from the 3rd week to be able to ask a virologist to test it
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Nope , I don't have such a person at the moment.
If the pathogen is in your blood, then it show the sequencing, use your blood only with latest technology

All the best :)
 
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Nope , I don't have such a person at the moment.
If the pathogen is in your blood, then it show the sequencing, use your blood only with latest technology

All the best :)
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This is what i will do, hopefully I can find an answer, else how is ur health going?
 
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taniaaust1 READ ALL THE LINKS , EACH STORIES ARE UNIQUE EXAMPLE, WHERE THE PATIENTS THINK THEY HAVE HIV LIKE VIRUS .

8eraser8 doctors are helpless. What can they do ,if its not yet discovered ??only a researcher can help then.
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I cant read all the links as there are other things I wish to read. .. Im quite limited in how much I can do per day and have to even limit how much reading I do like everything else I do per day. (I basically just skim most of these threads and actually dont read most threads at all).
 
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I think you would have to be extremely lucky to get the blood of someone who's been sick for 3 weeks or less to test. Most people when they get a "virus" .. many dont go to the doctor for a week or two. Then dr does blood tests and one waits a further week for those to come back. It probably takes 4-6 weeks before someone realises they may have something which may not just go away (unless they have caught it from another they know has it and hence know what its all about to start with).

Anyway.. best luck with it.
 
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it shows how powerful the psych lobby has been when a person goes into a doctor with just an illness they dont know what it is.. and they basically suggest a psych ("consider talking to a professional about your FEELINGS").
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Brilliant ... if someone doesn't have HIV, the only alternative medical condition is a psychological one o_O

She should apply that theory to everyone - all diseases which aren't HIV have now been cured!
 
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I cant read all the links as there are other things I wish to read. .. Im quite limited in how much I can do per day and have to even limit how much reading I do like everything else I do per day. (I basically just skim most of these threads and actually dont read most threads at all).
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taniaaust1 how did u get this problem? is your problem similar to us with the hiv like infection?

Today`s doctors ie most of them are focused on profit, so if it was not taught to them, it has to be in the mind. Yes i believe only a researcher or a virologist can help me, the 3-5 weeks patient is indeed very rare if not impossible to find. But that is the key to knowing what is causing this infection
 
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US Civilian Biological Testing Law Repealed

From Joyce Riley vonKleist, R.N., B.S.N.
Capt. USAF Inactive Reserve
5-9-98

For over twenty years the Department of Defense (DoD) or their contractors were allowed to use the American people as "guinea pigs" for testing of chemical or biological agents. Since July 30th, 1977, the United States Code annotated Title 50, Chapter 32, Section 1520 remained on the books until drawn into the arena of public discussion on talk radio.
Last year, Joyce Riley vonKleist R.N., presented this as a topic of discussion on several national radio talk shows and was immediately greeted with skepticism and ridicule by many news directors and editors who refused to acknowledge the existence of such a law. The debate raged on for several months and many listeners took the initiative and the time to research this law only to find that it indeed existed! At the suggestion of the AGWVA, thousands of letters and phone calls poured in to public officials' offices demanding an explanation and their position statement on this law.
Due to overwhelming public outcry, section 1520 was quietly repealed by the passing of H. R. 1119, the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal years 1998 and 1999. Section 1078 of this bill prohibits the DoD, either directly or by contract, from conducting tests or experiments using chemical or biological agents on human subjects (with exceptions).
Under the (just repealed) law, the DoD has been permitted to conduct such a test or experiment if informed consent is obtained. According to U. S. Senator Olympia Snowe (ME), the conference report on H. R. 1119 was passed by the Senate, by a vote of 90-10 on November 6, 1997 and signed into law by President Clinton on November 18th, 1997.
Because of persistence and tenacity, the AGWVA was able to generate enough public attention on this issue to effect this change.
Joyce Riley vonKleist stated, "We, at the American Gulf War Veterans Association will continue in our efforts in preventing the spread of illnesses across this country by providing credible and verifiable information to the mainstream media and the American people. This is just one more case where talk radio has had an positive impact."​
 
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History of Human Experimentation:

1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.

1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.

1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.

1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 I n an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.

1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.

1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.

1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine

1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.

1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government's current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.

1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.

1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.

1994 With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.

1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War .

1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.

1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.
1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.
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