Does anyone here NOT have EBV, HHV-6, or CMV?

[morgan_25]

Question. This is what my results look like. For whatever reason every time I see someone else’s results it shows EXTREMELY different numbers, like there are different kinds of EBV tests, but I’m the only one with this weird test.

 

[EddieB]

It's my understanding that if you have viral replication, as in a EBV re-activation, your PCR test would be positive. You could get a false negative but 3-4 false negatives is beyond comprehension.

Agreed, if they were taking at the right time while the virus was active. I’m constantly sick, so no telling when that is.

 

[sometexan84]

Or 3 or 4, I’ve lost count. All negative.

But I’m beginning to question the value of an “active” test. The doctors make a big deal over them, “oh your test is negative, so your fine...”

It's up to you, but tons and tons of people were cured from Dr. Lerner's treatment after being diagnosed w/ what you have. IgM = active, primary, acute.... EA IgG = 80%+ of the time, it's a reactivation. But it's more than an 80% chance in your case, based on the numbers in your collective test results.

 

[EddieB]

@EddieB Dude. You very much have a very active EBV infection

Sure feels that way to me...

 

[sometexan84]

And you’re saying that it could have been a false negative?

That is very unlikely. But I haven't seen your actual labwork. From what you're describing, it's not a false positive. But again, I'd have to actually see the numbers.

 

[morgan_25]

That is very unlikely. But I haven't seen your actual labwork. From what you're describing, it's not a false positive. But again, I'd have to actually see the numbers.

What were you saying is false in your last response?

 

[morgan_25]

That is very unlikely. But I haven't seen your actual labwork. From what you're describing, it's not a false positive. But again, I'd have to actually see the numbers.

I posted my regular test above not the PCR test though.

 

[sometexan84]

This is interesting because I had a PCR test done right after my EBV test showed I was positive for active EBV, but my PCR test came back negative as wel.

Or 3 or 4, I’ve lost count. All negative.

But I’m beginning to question the value of an “active” test. The doctors make a big deal over them, “oh your test is negative, so your fine...”

Ok, so, here's the deal. PCR is accurate, it is. But the Early Antigen (EA) IgG is what you should use.

The thing is PCR testing is newer. And the cut-off values for positive/negative is very different. There's not really a standard protocol. So, while the PCR is good, the standard diagnosis is not.

 

[EddieB]

It's up to you, but tons and tons of people were cured from Dr. Lerner's treatment after being diagnosed w/ what you have. IgM = active, primary, acute.... EA IgG = 80%+ of the time, it's a reactivation. But it's more than an 80% chance in your case, based on the numbers in your collective test results.

Your story is encouraging, thanks for sharing. Do you offer coaching services as well?
I sent my immunologist info on Lerner, Montoya, and Powell. I’ll need her to agree to an ongoing supply of valtrex. I’m running out of hope as well as things to try...

 

[sometexan84]

Question. This is what my results look like. For whatever reason every time I see someone else’s results it shows EXTREMELY different numbers, like there are different kinds of EBV tests, but I’m the only one with this weird test.

Yes, that is for sure an Acute, Primary EBV Infection.

 

[sometexan84]

What were you saying is false in your last response?

Actually, someone else was talking about false positives.

 

[morgan_25]

Your story is encouraging, thanks for sharing. Do you offer coaching services as well?
I sent my immunologist info on Lerner, Montoya, and Powell. I’ll need her to agree to an ongoing supply of valtrex. I’m running out of hope as well as things to try...

I have had people recommend Valtrex to me as well.

 

[morgan_25]

Actually, someone else was talking about false positives.

Oh lol okay I got lost so you do think there’s a possibility I’ve had it since I was 14?? I know my life never went back to being the same after that but damn.

 

[morgan_25]

Yes, that is for sure an Acute, Primary EBV Infection.

But because I’ve had it for long wouldn’t be chronic and not acute?

 

[sometexan84]

Your story is encouraging, thanks for sharing. Do you offer coaching services as well?

Yes, and I accept payment in GNC Gift Certificates.

 

[sometexan84]

But because I’ve had it for long wouldn’t be chronic and not acute?

I guess it could be either. But the way you describe it, if you had symptoms from the get-go, then I would call it an acute infection, a persistent one.

 

[morgan_25]

I guess it could be either. But the way you describe it, if you had symptoms from the get-go, then I would call it an acute infection, a persistent one.

Yeah that’s true. Do you know anything about the impact of EBV on our organs? I’m just curious cause around April when it got really bad I started having severe pain in my lower left back and all of MRIs and such are all clear. So, of course just like everything else they never figured out what it was and it hasn’t gotten any better.

 

[EddieB]

But because I’ve had it for long wouldn’t be chronic and not acute?

Just my opinion, but I suspect that in the long term cases, the virus has hid itself in the tissues, and may or may not show up active in serum.

That would be a good question, has someone that has been sick with symptoms for years, suddenly turned up a positive PCR?

 

[morgan_25]

Just my opinion, but I suspect that in the long term cases, the virus has hid itself in the tissues, and may or may not show up active in serum.

That would be a good question, has someone that has been sick with symptoms for years, suddenly turned up a positive PCR?

That’s exactly what one of my CFS friends mentioned to me actually. She seemed to think that there is a possibility that it has progressed so much that it may be in the tissues, so it’s not showing up on PCR. I don’t know how possible that is but it makes sense, however I would think that if I still test positive of the EBV tests, that I should test positive on PCR? I’m not sure, I’ve only ever had one PCR test done before.

 

[sometexan84]

Do you know anything about the impact of EBV on our organs?

Nope. I do not.

Kidney infection?

There's more people here on this forum with severe pain that would know. I never had much pain at all.