I read somewhere that the Moderna vaccine uses another substance to encapsulate the mRNA--sorry I don't remember where I read it. It will be interesting if the same level of anaphylactic reactions occur with it.
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@Gingergrrl & @Sushi .....Good Morning. No, I'm sorry that I don't have the link about Autoimmune Encephalitis. It was only afterwards that I realized how important it could be to those who suffer from it.
I'm keeping an open mind, will listen to both sides of course, but will, ultimately, have to make a decision concerning vaccinations. I thought it was interesting that even after we're vaccinated, we'll have to wear masks in public. It was a bit of a blow to read that news twice within a few hrs. each time, but there it is...at least now. I'm forever hopeful though and it's better to have the vaccination (if possible) than having the virus.
We'll simply have to be calm about learning this information, take it in as it comes and do what is right for us and our families. I, too, have had immunizations again the flu each year, the new shingles vaccine.
this is a devastating illness and we don't want to make it worse or permanent. We'll keep everyone informed, but as of now I wouldn't get the new immunizations known about and no, I'm not an antivaxxer, just someone who will keep a special eye on this one. Immunizations have done far more good than bad for humanity, and there will never, ever be something called perfect. I realize that I'm putting my head on the line, but I've seen the damage caused by illnesses that could have been prevented. If this means waiting until the 6th vaccine, that's fine.
I wish each and every one of you well and want you to make the right decision for you. Yours, Lenora.
I'm keeping an open mind, will listen to both sides of course, but will, ultimately, have to make a decision concerning vaccinations. I thought it was interesting that even after we're vaccinated, we'll have to wear masks in public. It was a bit of a blow to read that news twice within a few hrs. each time, but there it is...at least now. I'm forever hopeful though and it's better to have the vaccination (if possible) than having the virus.
We'll simply have to be calm about learning this information, take it in as it comes and do what is right for us and our families. I, too, have had immunizations again the flu each year, the new shingles vaccine.
this is a devastating illness and we don't want to make it worse or permanent. We'll keep everyone informed, but as of now I wouldn't get the new immunizations known about and no, I'm not an antivaxxer, just someone who will keep a special eye on this one. Immunizations have done far more good than bad for humanity, and there will never, ever be something called perfect. I realize that I'm putting my head on the line, but I've seen the damage caused by illnesses that could have been prevented. If this means waiting until the 6th vaccine, that's fine.
I wish each and every one of you well and want you to make the right decision for you. Yours, Lenora.
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I would love to see the Coronavirus eradicated. However, there is no hurry to be the first in line for the first two vaccines....we have questions to settle first and perhaps there will be #6 that will answer most of them.
At some point, I like you, will have to make a decision. If I didn't have AE, it would probably be the 2nd vaccine, but since I now have this other problem, Autoimmune Encephalitis, I really have to think the entire process through...and I will. I want a vaccine, most people will be just fine with it, but there are those of us who do need to stop and simply question what they're doing. I want to go to CA to see my daughter again, that's important, and we'll see where the answers are.
I'm old enough to remember deaths from polio (plenty and horrible), measles, whooping cough and others. As a matter of fact, with 9 children we were sometimes quarantined ourselves. So I know both sides of this issue, and I've lived with ME for at least 35 yrs. or more. Too much information can be confusing; I understand. But just take it a bit at a time and one day make a decision and then stick to it. I wish you well. Yours, Lenora.
At some point, I like you, will have to make a decision. If I didn't have AE, it would probably be the 2nd vaccine, but since I now have this other problem, Autoimmune Encephalitis, I really have to think the entire process through...and I will. I want a vaccine, most people will be just fine with it, but there are those of us who do need to stop and simply question what they're doing. I want to go to CA to see my daughter again, that's important, and we'll see where the answers are.
I'm old enough to remember deaths from polio (plenty and horrible), measles, whooping cough and others. As a matter of fact, with 9 children we were sometimes quarantined ourselves. So I know both sides of this issue, and I've lived with ME for at least 35 yrs. or more. Too much information can be confusing; I understand. But just take it a bit at a time and one day make a decision and then stick to it. I wish you well. Yours, Lenora.
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Hello Sushi....I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't seem to gain access to this group, at least at this time. I'll keep trying and thank-you for the information. I haven't seen you around here lately, I hope that's not a bad thing. Take good care. Yours, Lenora
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Nurse collapses on live television shortly after receiving covid-19 vaccine:
@Sushi -- What you mention highlights the concerns I have about any kind of vaccine: The lack of transparency. If they would just publish all the ingredients that are in a vaccine, explain why they're there, what the benefits and potential liabilities of each substance are, then I could begin to trust them more.
I've heard vaccine manufacturers can get a vaccine approved, but go back to the drawing board at any time and replace or add any number of adjuvents or other substances without getting further approval. That's a problem. This practice has led to relatively safe vaccines all of a sudden becoming very problematic. It's just very hard for me to trust them with that kind of track record.
I've heard vaccine manufacturers can get a vaccine approved, but go back to the drawing board at any time and replace or add any number of adjuvents or other substances without getting further approval. That's a problem. This practice has led to relatively safe vaccines all of a sudden becoming very problematic. It's just very hard for me to trust them with that kind of track record.
You have to join the Facebook group. If that link doesn't work for you, search for it by name: ME/CFS and the COVID VACCINES. When I applied to join, I got an approval within 5 minutes.
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Learn more about one of the pioneers behind this latest miracle of mRNA science.
She was demoted, doubted and rejected. Now, her work is the basis of the Covid-19 vaccine
Katalin Karikó is a hero for creating one of greatest medical advancements of our time.
She was demoted, doubted and rejected. Now, her work is the basis of the Covid-19 vaccine
Katalin Karikó is a hero for creating one of greatest medical advancements of our time.
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Thank you for this @Hip . The truth is out there and the Earth is still round the last time I checked.
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World has reached almost 300,000 doses of COVID-19 vaccine administered as of December 16. Still no data for the US.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...e=absolute&time=earliest..latest®ion=World
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3rd Alaska health care worker experiences adverse reaction to COVID-19 vaccine:
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/202...riences-adverse-reaction-to-covid-19-vaccine/
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/202...riences-adverse-reaction-to-covid-19-vaccine/
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@Fat Viking After seeing the full ingredient list, it seems that the Pfizer COVID vaccine does not contain aluminum or any adjuvants.
@Jade7 Have there been cases of Transverse Myelitis in the COVID vaccine trials?!!! Do you have more info about this?
Thank you for sharing this and that is horrifying! I had heard of the H1N1 vaccine causing narcolepsy in some people but I did not know the details (or that it was a viral protein vs. an adjuvant that caused the reaction).
I actually view it the opposite way! If I was young and healthy I would feel much more secure getting the COVID vaccine without it causing severe adverse effects such as re-triggering my autoimmune diseases that are in remission or causing me anaphylaxis (which I also have a history of). I feel there is much more at risk to me from getting the vaccine than not getting it (with the amount of info that we have so far and of course this could change in the future).
@JES Do you know which COVID vaccines do contain adjuvants? Is there somewhere that lists all of the ingredients and adjuvants of all the different vaccine manufacturers?
Likewise for myself. I am not anti-vaccine whatsoever vs. I am trying to educate myself re: all of the information to see if it is possible for me to safely get a COVID vaccine given my entire medical history.
I just saw that and it was scary! I'm assuming she had the Pfizer vaccine (and I don't think Moderna is out yet in the US but I could be wrong about that).
Thank you for sharing this and I just read the link. I had not heard about the third anaphylaxis reaction to the vaccine in Alaska. I am now wondering if Alaska got a bad batch since they have had three serious allergic reactions in just a few days. I had assumed that all of the batches were the same (from Pfizer) but now I am thinking that this is not the case?
@Jade7 Have there been cases of Transverse Myelitis in the COVID vaccine trials?!!! Do you have more info about this?
Thank you for sharing this and that is horrifying! I had heard of the H1N1 vaccine causing narcolepsy in some people but I did not know the details (or that it was a viral protein vs. an adjuvant that caused the reaction).
I actually view it the opposite way! If I was young and healthy I would feel much more secure getting the COVID vaccine without it causing severe adverse effects such as re-triggering my autoimmune diseases that are in remission or causing me anaphylaxis (which I also have a history of). I feel there is much more at risk to me from getting the vaccine than not getting it (with the amount of info that we have so far and of course this could change in the future).
@JES Do you know which COVID vaccines do contain adjuvants? Is there somewhere that lists all of the ingredients and adjuvants of all the different vaccine manufacturers?
Likewise for myself. I am not anti-vaccine whatsoever vs. I am trying to educate myself re: all of the information to see if it is possible for me to safely get a COVID vaccine given my entire medical history.
I just saw that and it was scary! I'm assuming she had the Pfizer vaccine (and I don't think Moderna is out yet in the US but I could be wrong about that).
Thank you for sharing this and I just read the link. I had not heard about the third anaphylaxis reaction to the vaccine in Alaska. I am now wondering if Alaska got a bad batch since they have had three serious allergic reactions in just a few days. I had assumed that all of the batches were the same (from Pfizer) but now I am thinking that this is not the case?
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Happy to help.
Here's what I found for Tromethamine....
Here's what I found for Tromethamine....
I would like to see this info as well.
Thank you for that link and I was wondering if anyone knows why there is no data for the US yet?
From what I can decipher from that wikipedia quote. It's something that helps to "buffer" solutions, to change their PH. Especially solutions for nucleic acids like mRNA's.
She collapsed from the needle stick--not any ingredient in the vaccine. She knew that she had a medical condition that made you prone to fainting if she experienced pain. Maybe vaso-vagal reaction? I've fainted from a needle stick too.
@Hip -- I really can't. I did a lot of reading on vaccine safety several years ago, and recall reading what I quoted. I just tried to do a quick search online to find a reference, but it's really hard to fid things in online searches these days that don't hew the line of conventional medicine.
In other words, nothing critical about vaccine research and development, which I believe should have more stringent safeguards. -- BTW, I'm not a rabid antivaxxer. I am however of the belief that vaccine research and development could and should be done in a much safer and transparent manner.
In other words, nothing critical about vaccine research and development, which I believe should have more stringent safeguards. -- BTW, I'm not a rabid antivaxxer. I am however of the belief that vaccine research and development could and should be done in a much safer and transparent manner.