Copper - a good way to monitor whether you should be taking it or not

[renski]

Monitor your hair analysis, if taking taking copper and the copper level is starting to show higher on the hair analysis, this means body is dumping/wasting the copper and shouldn't be taking copper and may be doing harm. I've made this mistake, so FYI for anyone.

 

[pamojja]

if taking taking copper and the copper level is starting to show higher on the hair analysis, this means body is dumping/wasting the copper and shouldn't be taking copper and may be doing harm.

Why? My copper levels only declined in hair, after starting supplementation. Even below normal, while in whole blood and serum copper went above normal.

 

[renski]

pamojja, your biochemistry is working differently, my pattern would only apply to people with similar situation.

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

@renski

pamojja, your biochemistry is working differently, my pattern would only apply to people with similar situation.

Without knowing if we have a "...similar situation ..." to you, biochemically or biologically, how can we derive any useable info from the hair test?

 

[renski]

@renski

Without knowing if we have a "...similar situation ..." to you, biochemically or biologically, how can we derive any useable info from the hair test?

Not sure, I just noticed this in my own hair analysis. Hair analysis is helpful if you know how to interpret it but really can be unhelpful and muddle things as well.

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

@renski

Hair analysis is helpful if you know how to interpret it but really can be unhelpful and muddle things as well.

I hear 'ya. Are you as tired as I am of double-edged swords?

Supp X will help Symptom Y, but it'll trigger Symptom Z and kneecap you entirely with Symptom XX.

 

[drmullin30]

I found HTMA to be too infrequent to be useful. If you are very good at interpreting the analysis it may reveal high copper at the time of the test but this only represents a long term trend. Since starting methylation/thyroid/oxalate protocols I've actually swung many times from copper toxicity to frank, full blown deficiency within the same few weeks.

I think this is what Fredd refers to as functional deficiency vs. overall body deficiency. I also think that at certain times I'm dumping old toxic copper with other things. My latest thinking is that this is related to oxalate deposits which trap copper, aluminum, cadmium etc. Since I've been doing oxalate detox I've had a few cycles of heavy aluminum dumping cycling with copper dumping but oxalates will also strip copper from the body so at other times I have been deficient. I have no test to show this. I go by how I react to certain supplements and toxicity/deficiency symptoms.