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Contribution to science of Regius Sir Simon Wessely: a thirty year retrospective

Countrygirl

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This is the sort of thing we have to thank him for.

https://translate.google.nl/transla...VS_docs-viewpub-tid-1-pid-989.html&edit-text=


Denise de Hoop

08.10.1967 - 28.12.2012

You have a courageous but unfair
battle fought. We will now be your
continue to fight for ME.
Niessie, you will always stay in our hearts.

Specialists from various hospitals have missed the tumor, they all said that I was mentally ill.I do not have any money to start proceedings and I do not have any energy either.I have been to the complaints committee of the Westfriesgasthuis.We advised you to talk to the specialists again."Some said they did not make any mistakes.I received an excuse from one specialist.He said: 'I have stuck to the fact that you have a psychosomatic disorder;that was my fault. "
 

Countrygirl

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Excellent read!

Thank you Margaret.

It is a shame that we have to wait until after their deaths' for the crimes of the Establishment's abusers to be publically acknowledged.
 

HowToEscape?

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I’m so glad I live in the United States of America. The country is a royal mess in many ways, but we have not taken ourselves down nearly so far and so fast as the UK. While our NIH was useless (or worse) regarding M.E, Individual doctors such as Derek Enlander were free to develop and prescribe treatments on their own. Ironically, D.E is originally from Ireland.

England was pretty much the birthplace of modern civilization; Magna Carta, Newton, steam engine, Maxwell’s equations, even the beginning of climate science. No more, that England.
 
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He doesn't even do research on CFS anymore. Going on about specific (former, in this case) researchers isn't going to achieve anything - it has no effect on convincing the medical community of anything with CFS, and it has no effect on convincing the public of anything. It's a worthless endeavour that has lead nowhere and only discouraged people from researching CFS, and it makes us look petty.

The focus on particular people has only convinced people further that CFS is psychosomatic and that we are crazy. Criticising research is a different matter. You can do that without focusing and hating on people.

When the Norwegian prime minister decided to take some decisive action on CFS, she didn't do that because she disliked specific researchers of CFS, or because people went on about specific researchers of CFS. She did it because she realised CFS was a highly disabling condition for many people, and the whole of society, the government and the medical community hadn't responded to CFS in an appropriate way.
 

RogerBlack

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He doesn't even do research on CFS anymore. Going on about specific (former, in this case) researchers isn't going to achieve anything - it has no effect on convincing the medical community of anything with CFS, and it has no effect on convincing the public of anything. It's a worthless endeavour that has lead nowhere and only discouraged people from researching CFS, and it makes us look petty.

He's still publishing, and publishing unhelpfully - from the Christmas 2017 issue of the BMJ
Current models of functional neurological disorders are returning to concepts that were popular before the era dominated by Freudian (psychological trauma) theory. It is increasingly accepted that beliefs about bodily dysfunction can trickle down the hierarchical neural architecture of the brain to produce “expected” symptoms beyond the conscious control of patients.1213 Similarly, medical dogma will guide doctors in their perception and treatment of disease, moulding it into preconceived shapes in the process.12 Both neural systems and medical sciences rely on determining the most likely interpretations using pre-existing ideas to reduce uncertainty (with what statisticians call probabilistic inference). To underestimate top-down influences in this complex interplay of thoughts and currents, to neglect the power of ideas and ideology, is to misunderstand how our brains work.
Both paragraphs are basically explicitly 'the brain can make you ill with physical symptoms and doctors should pay attention to this explanation'.

He last published on CFS/ME in Apr 2016, and is actively publishing.
He has retired many, many times from CFS research - publishing dozens of papers, books, and making interviews stating he's retired due to abuse during the period he has claimed to have retired.

His position makes him unusually credible past the research he does, and until he's actually in a box (through natural causes) he can still do harm.
 

Hip

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Wessely is masterful when it comes to wording and use of language. He has little or no empirical evidence to offer to support his ideas, and he has no credible scientific models or theories to underpin his ideas.

So to hide the fact that he has no evidence or theories to offer, he uses well chosen phrases like "it is increasingly accepted" and "to neglect the power of ideas and ideology, is to misunderstand how our brains work", which he deployed above.

There is no scientific substance whatsoever in what he says, but his phraseology makes it sound like his ideas are science-based.