I think it's probably true, for cats and for us, that once you have had some infection, there will always be at least a little bit left somewhere that can reactivate. You probably never get rid of anything 100%. But once we have a reliable way to help fight off the infection, we will always be able to get help to fight back.
Also, IF it is spread fairly casually, then it's pretty likely that nearly everybody has already been exposed and has at least some tiny amount of it infecting them. I think we tend to think about infection in simplistic, black and white terms, that you either have it or you don't. But in reality the numbers of cells in our body are so unimaginably huge, that it doesn't really work like that: instead, it's a numbers game. How much of it do we have at the moment, how much is replicating, how strong are our defences at the moment, are we winning or losing the battle at the moment - that sort of thing.
As for transmission my wife never succomed one of my daughters had a lot of illness when younger, we thought ME may have been developing.but shes been fine as she got older now 16. I said it was complicted ?
So you can think about all this in a positive or negative way (and it's best to try to focus on the positives as much as possible). IF it's casually spread, then most people have already been exposed, and we must have some kind of defences against it. If some people can recover partially, or if some of us have good days and bad days (most of us do I think) then there are always possibilities for managing things better. The more we know and understand all these things, the better our situation will get.
Mark i think a lot of what you say may be correct as it certainly fits my experiance, though im waiting to hear if im positive or not, so untill i get that im unsure, but if t aint xmrv its def a virus and immune activation of somekind
This idea of the immune system coping with a virus does sound correct, as after sudden onset viral symptoms, and a gradual decline into a constant illness. It took a lot for me to partially recover. Sleep apparently repairs the immune system, and only after i got my sleep back on track did i take a long snakes and ladders type recovery.
3 steps foward and two back again. there are many things that can strengthen the immune system, and the right sort of foods are another thing that can make us stronger to fight infection, ( again thats something i did ) anxiety can really knock the immune system. again thats something i partly cured. Its not one thing, but lots of things combined that gradually over a long period of time mount up, to combat ME and PEM
Often i think im cured, then i start getting ill again, in small cycles, untill the next period of better health. If you guys could really know how ill i was, and for how long, if you could have seen it over and over. Then i feel a lot would really be analyzing what i did to get so many years now of better health. ( no bodys interested for the most part ) well thats fine. If you have what i have ( more had now, though it hasnt gone ) then i know your going to be suffering, i know your going to be scared. i know you will have thoughts of sucide. I know your life will be like a walking death. Ive had that life, but i came back. Only not completely, but enough to not feel terror any more.
Yes Mark i think your right, this is very complicated indeed, and my experiance suggests the body can over a long period of time ( possibly depending on what you do ) somehow learns to live a balance with a virus, that at first completley overwhelms the immune system.
If those changes are not made, then further decline can continue. though even with those life changes, it can be a very long snakes and ladders recovery. And i suspect its for the reasons your talking about, i think your on the right tracks, as it fits with my experiance and eventuall part profound recovery over 16 odd years of this damm illness.
I may be well for weeks, i may ger ill tonight. your right Mark it never fully goes. but it can get weaker, and it can lead to much faster longer lasting recoverys than when i was the walking dead, The terror of those memorys still and for always will haunt my mind.
when i die. I may well think of my screen name my kids, my wife, and FREE AT LAST it cant hurt us forever guys.
it has to be a virus in balance with our immune systems. when one has swine flu symptoms with a raging temperature then thats a virus. well i had those symptoms over and over, that lead to ME.
But then it becomes milder flu, BUT MORE OFTEN. But then milder still, and even less often. but only after years of slow careful immune system fighting back life changes
As for transmission, my wife never succomed
one of my daughters did get ill a lot when younger, and we thought she may have been developing ME. but as she got older she seems fine now. shes now 16
I said it was complicated indeed it is ?