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Bacteriophage shipped from Germany

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Hi, found a website that's sells bacteriophage and ships from Germany. They sell the same Phages which are used in Georgia Eliava institute and the company are based in Georgia. They also do an analysis taken from either blood, sperm, urine or prostate liquid for 180 Euros. They accept PayPal and have a contact number that's based in Germany. Has anyone purchased from them before or aware of the site?

https://mybacteriophage.net/collections/bacteriophages-1
 
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I am about to order 3 boxes of the FERSISI BACTERIOPHAGE. I have tried phage before when I travelled with my father to Georgia for a staph infection he acquired after surgery on his foot which antibiotics wouldn't work on. I tried the PYO and the INTESTI phage. They were giving him so many boxes so I just took the ones he didn't use. I did 5 days PYO twice a day and 5 days INTESTI twice a day. I also went for testing there but the only thing they could find is that I had low levels of Ecoli and staph epidermis in the urine . They were very busy there and it was difficult trying to communicate with them as it was done through a translator.

Heres more info on each phage product from Eliava

http://phage.ge/products/pyo-bacteriophage/

http://phage.ge/products/intesti-bacteriophage/

http://phage.ge/products/staphylococcal-bacteriophage/

http://phage.ge/products/ses-bacteriophage/

http://phage.ge/products/fersisi-bacteriophage/

http://phage.ge/products/enko-bacteriophage/
 

Hip

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I understand that the difference between these relatively cheap off-the-shelf phage products from the phagetherapycenter.com (those listed on your German website, costing around €100), and the more tailored phage treatments offered by phagetherapycenter.com (which costs around a $1000 or more) is that the tailored treatments are selected to precisely target the particular bacteria subspecies that you have.

So for example, if you had a Staphylococcus aureus infection, there are many subspecies of that bacterium, and the phagetherapycenter.com will select from their large library of phages one which is effective against your particular subspecies of Staphylococcus. But this tailored service costs around $1000.

Whereas if you use one of their off-the-shelf phage products for Staphylococcus, that phage may not necessarily work that well against your particular subspecies of Staphylococcus.
 
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Yes that's correct. They gave my father the Pyo and Intesti phage while they took a sample from his foot and cultured it for a few days then made a customized staph phage for his foot . The treatment worked for him. I have sent them an email for the price of a customised phage, hopefully they get back to me tommorow.
 
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Hip

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They gave my father the Pyo and Intesti phage while they took a sample from his foot and cultured it for a few days then made a customized staph phage fo

Very interesting. Was phage therapy suggested by your father's doctor, or was it something he found from his own research?
 
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Very interesting. Was phage therapy suggested by your father's doctor, or was it something he found from his own research?

I suggested it to my father as I had been wanting to try phage for years. He had never heard of phage before and I don't think he really understood what it was even after to explaining it to him. He tells everyone about it now though.
 
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I had a reply from them regarding cost of custom phages today. Seems the prices vary and a analysis would have to be done first.

"Hello,

Thank you for your email,

Let me kindly ask you first,

About which bacteria?
Where is that located?
Would you like distance analysis or on place first? Because at first we need to make analysis which cost 185 euro, after that they can make custom phages for you and prices are always different.

Thank you

Kind regards

Salome"
 
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I sent another email asking about option for a stool analysis. They have now added that option to the site in the drop down menu and they have also given me a price for custom phage which is inline with the prices from the Eliava institute in Georgia.

"Hello,

Thank you for your question,

Yes we do offer, i added that option as well,
About custom made phage:
1. Always better to know exactly what and which phage goes better to the following viruses (bacterias)
2. 185€ is the analysis cost (doesn’t include any transportation box or fee) doctors might say that ready bacterias (Fox example PYO) goes alright perfectly to this bacteria.
3. 1500 € is the cost of custom a special Bacteriophage.
4. Afterward creating a custom Bacteriophage doctors will give you a recipe how many ml Bacteriophage can be used per day and how long, that will be additional charge if Bacteriophage( if that will be a big quantity price will be different (low))
5. As soon as your transportation box will be ready to ship, we need to book doctors straight away and as soon as we will receive doctors will give us an answer in around 10 days.

I hope it helps

Thank you and best wishes"
 

JES

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@SamB Do you have any opinion on which one of these cheaper more general phages could be of help in ME/CFS (I know it's a bit of a lottery with phages)? It seems many of the listed products contain staphylococcus phages.
 
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@SamB Do you have any opinion on which one of these cheaper more general phages could be of help in ME/CFS (I know it's a bit of a lottery with phages)? It seems many of the listed products contain staphylococcus phages.

I wish I had the answer to that. I would advise to get tested beforehand as most likely a custom phage would be needed if something did show up. But then its the cost of testing and getting a custom phage made. I was hoping it would have been cheaper to get a custom phage through this site but that's not the case. Although its hell of a lot cheaper then travelling there and paying for accomadation.