Daffodil
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thats why GcMAF works..it targets B cells that are marked by viruses!!!
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XMRV and MLV in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Funded by: The National Institutes of Health (NIH)
While bringing conclusion to the XMRV debate, this study creates well-defined patient cohorts from multiple sites under the leadership of Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health and the Centers for Infection and Immunity.
http://simmaronresearch.com/sr-research/?forumid=331851
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-06-scientists-lack-protein-results-persistent.html
ooh.. thats interesting. Imiquimod works on TLR7 according to wiki.
..And this implicates TLR4,
http://www.proteabiopharma.com/page/cfs-me.php
..For which Naloxone and Amitriptyline are antagonists.
Whats it all mean?.....I dont know. But i'll take anything.
However, i digress. Back to Lipkin
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#XMRV/#CFS/#ME study is complete. Was accepted for publication last week. Is due for release on Sept. 18.
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@newprof1 @cggbamford We prefer the "Alter/Mikovits/Switzer/Lipkin" study , but yes.
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the comments "bringing conclusion to the XMRV debate" and "draw a line under"
don't necessarily translate to "rule out" to me. Draw a line through, that's a no. Bringing conclusion to the debate
could be a yea or a nay. Drawing a line under is for emphasis. I read it as possibly a subset in which MLVs can be a factor. Or not.
I'm quoting myself, because I was just watching a movie the other day wherein a character used "draw a line under" in the sense of crossing it off the list. I have never heard that before, but of course, I don't get out much
Anyhow, it's such a short wait now to see the study. I hope we get some solid info for moving forward,
whatever the results.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/drawI'm quoting myself, because I was just watching a movie the other day wherein a character used "draw a line under" in the sense of crossing it off the list.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/draw
draw a line under
resolve not to engage in further discussion or consideration of (a difficult or distressing issue or situation): we need to draw a line under this whole affair, not prolong it
The orgin is I think mathematics/accountancy - a heavy horizontal line denoting the end of a calculation or accounting series. Anything that follows, although it may use data derived from above the line (for example a closing balance), is considered to operate under different conditions to that which applied to the calculations made above the line. A completed calculation may of course get a 'tick' from the auditor, teacher or examiner, and the completed work may be 'crossed off' the work list. In printing a heavy line was once standard at the end of a book chapter, and of course still denotes the end of an article in some print media.CM
Well, at least now we've got the English sorted.
On to the science ........