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I tested "+/- Positive" on PCR detection on Qubec Dr Jolicoeur study

I've been part of Dr Jolicoeur study. I've been told (by my doctor) that only 4 patients out of 120 has tested "+/- Positive" on PCR detection in "Institut de recherches cliniques de Montral" study. I'm one of those 4 patients. Shall I say "lucky me"? the 3 other tests in the study were "dtection d'Ag viraux, dtection de virus infectueux, and dtection d'anticorps turned to be all negative for me. On the report I got from IRCM, a comment state that: "a +/- result is probably negative, as it couln't be confirmed in an independent study or with other primers". Voil.
 

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I've been part of Dr Jolicoeur study. I've been told (by my doctor) that only 4 patients out of 120 has tested "+/- Positive" on PCR detection in "Institut de recherches cliniques de Montral" study. I'm one of those 4 patients. Shall I say "lucky me"? the 3 other tests in the study were "dtection d'Ag viraux, dtection de virus infectueux, and dtection d'anticorps turned to be all negative for me. On the report I got from IRCM, a comment state that: "a +/- result is probably negative, as it couln't be confirmed in an independent study or with other primers". Voil.

Here is the english translation : viral antigen detection of infectious virus and antibody detection was negative for grosminou (big cat !!!) but PCR +/- positive, whatever it means.
 

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I've been part of Dr Jolicoeur study. I've been told (by my doctor) that only 4 patients out of 120 has tested "+/- Positive" on PCR detection

Hi grominou, welcome to the forums, and thanks for the valuable info. Can we infer from the above quote that no culturing was employed? Just straight up PCR?
 
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Hi subst4ct,

IRCM Dr Paul Jolicoeur CFS vs XMRV study included 4 tests:
1. Viral sequences in blood cells with PCR amplification
2. Viral antigen in blood cells: + By immunofluorescence methodology;
3. Infectious virus with in vitro co-culturing methodology using cell line known to be sensible to this virus;
4. Antiviral antibody detection: +By Western blot methodology.

Only the number 1: "Viral sequences with PCR" revealed a (or +/-) result. Number 2-3-4 were negative.

My doctor also told me that the study developed their own PCR because using PCR from WPI would had cost too much to the Montreal's institute.
 

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I've been part of Dr Jolicoeur study. I've been told (by my doctor) that only 4 patients out of 120 has tested "+/- Positive" on PCR detection in "Institut de recherches cliniques de Montral" study. I'm one of those 4 patients. Shall I say "lucky me"? the 3 other tests in the study were "dtection d'Ag viraux, dtection de virus infectueux, and dtection d'anticorps turned to be all negative for me. On the report I got from IRCM, a comment state that: "a +/- result is probably negative, as it couln't be confirmed in an independent study or with other primers". Voil.

Hi grominou,

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