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Zinc Picolinate and Insomnia

Discussion in 'Sleep' started by GreenMachineX, Mar 16, 2018.

  1. GreenMachineX

    GreenMachineX Senior Member

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    I’ve been battling insomnia (terminal variety, waking up at 2am for good) for about 2 months. I’ve also been experimenting with zinc picolinate during that time. I’ve taken zinc carnosine, zinc aspartate, zinc bisglycinate and others over the years with no problem. I had no idea zinc picolinate could cause sleep issues, but I ceased taking it about 1 week ago and gradually my sleep improved until 2 days ago I got a full 8 hours without any sleep support at all! Then, yesterday, thinking that my angular cheilitis is caused by zinc deficiency, took 30mg before bed and have been awake since 2am again! I also get other symptoms like wanting to grind my jaw and fidget.

    Does zinc do this to anyone else, particularly the picolinate version?
     
  2. Sundancer

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    yes, it does to me. I think zinc picolinate is one of the better absorb-able forms. I had this effect with zinc methionin.

    The naturopath whom I told this said: zinc has an effect on the strength of the ' glue' with which endorphins stick to the receptor-cells. When the endorphinic ( endogenous opioid) system is weak, this 'un-glueing' leads to too much 'lessening' of contact between endorphin and receptor-cells, so creating stress/fidgety/high muscle-tension/ craving to ( former) addictive substances ( sugar/alcohol/smoking/chocolate, you name it. Your 'soother')

    I cannot today explain it any plainer, sorry...

    he had research to underpin this, but I can't link it for you, I should have to search foor it and I'm sort of crashed these days

    I even had that effect with 1 mg then stopped. Soon I'll try again.
     
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  3. GreenMachineX

    GreenMachineX Senior Member

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    Gotcha. You kind of warned me about this in that other thread too, and completely forgot until now. I’m going to stop it for a few days to get caught back up on sleep and then test zinc l-carnosine. I recent took it for about 6 months without any issues and stopped 2 months ago when I stopped everything. I’m hoping it’s just the picolinate that is bad for me and not zinc. I was sure yesterday that the lack of zinc has caused my angular cheilitis but now I don’t know lol. Getting this stuff sorted out is almost a full time job!

    What crashed you recently?
     
  4. GreenMachineX

    GreenMachineX Senior Member

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    Also, how long have you noticed the zinc stimulation feeling to last once stopping it?
     
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    helen1 Senior Member

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    I’ve read that zinc inhibits absorption of calcium and magnesium which are both needed for good sleep. That might be what’s happening.

    @GreenMachineX
     
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  6. GreenMachineX

    GreenMachineX Senior Member

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    Thanks. But do you mean when it’s consumed at the same time or doesn’t matter when?
     
  7. soundasacrystal

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    I just experienced the same problem last night after taking 30 mgs zinc pic in the afternoon. Zero sleep last night and now I'm having palpitations. It's so irritating because I desperately need it to overcome this cough I've had for 6 weeks. My lungs felt so much better after the zinc, but now I can't have it. I feel so defeated and hopeless right now.
     
  8. GreenMachineX

    GreenMachineX Senior Member

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    I’ve given up on zinc pic, but having great success with ZMA which has zinc monomethione, magnesium aspartate and b6.
     
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