Would we even be gathered here today in this forum if those buffoons that first investigated the Incline Village outbreak in Nevada in 1984-85 would have even done a small resemblance of their job duties instead of looking through a few charts, skiing the other days away, and reporting back to the CDC we had a classic case of overachievers, burnt-out, good ol" yuppie flu hysteria.? What were those clowns names? I believe one was named Holmes? No idea on the other. I guess before I convict them personally I might consider they were perhaps given orders from above. I sometimes wonder if this was the first media notable jump in a coming epidemic that started back in Darwin and Nightingale times or even earlier. Or perhaps this was a coming epidemic created by the 1934-35 experiments in the California hospital to try a highly experimental polio vaccine with horrendous results. Who will ever know? At any rate it is easy logic to see the pandemic spread of this silent disease in relation to how small this earth has grown in terms of travel to every country imaginable at virtually any time. I don't know if those CDC doctors could have done a great deal even if they would have performed their duties above and beyond. But I can't help but believe we would be a lot further along if they would have performed real science and medicine and we today would be 34 or so years ahead of where we are. And that's just the USA! The situation in the UK just continues to upset and depress me. I feel for all you guys so much! Getting pushed onto antidepressants and GET and CBT just angers me. I never thought the UK would ever take this uncivilized road! When I was young the UK was always the epitome of hip and proper to me. I guess all things change with time. But I know it's all about money or lack of and it's getting scarce even here in the states. I worry if Lipkin or Davis or others will ever be allowed real proper funding. Gotta say though that Lipkin is looking way downstream from the problem I believe which is odd.( on one of my worse days even suspicious) But just what percentage of people need to become disabled in the world for the " big boys" to take notice of the brontosaurus in the room? One day soon I shall write of the horrific cluster I was in the middle of way back when and of the entire bizarre experience, the cover-up, and the things I learned from it about human nature. Just way too flared up today good people to even begin. It's a flippin' novel!