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what would the perfect b-complex look like?

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by SwanRonson, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. SwanRonson

    SwanRonson Senior Member

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    Trying as much as possible to assimilate all of the information here, it seems that a great baseline b-complex to use as a methylation support would be one that provides about 200% of the RDA of each of the B vitamins except b12, b9, b6 and b3. That way you could scale up or down the rest in concert and individualize the ones that have the most startup effects (b12,b9,b3) and neuro side-effects (b6).

    It just seems that the standard b-50 and b-100 formulation are completely arbitrary and dangerous, not to mention very hard to dial in for methylation support.

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding something though.
     
  2. halcyon

    halcyon Senior Member

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    I came to more or less the same conclusion. The "perfect" B complex will be different for everybody. I like to avoid biotin and niacin for example, so I just had to put together my own complex. That way I was able to add them in one at a time and know right away which ones I might react badly to.

    It's actually surprisingly hard to find low dose individual B vitamins.
     
  3. adreno

    adreno PR activist

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    The perfect B complex would be different for everyone.
     
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    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    Sherpa Ex-workaholic adrenaline junkie

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    To clarify, I meant "perfect" in utility. It seems there would be a baseline for everyone where it's low enough dosage that you could take without risk. I would think, for example, that it would be hard to find someone that has a bad reaction to 1mg of riboflavin.

    I guess that's the part that's hard for me to grasp. It seems like chicken or egg. If I add one at a time, how do I know if a symptom is related to the one I just started taking, or related to it's now skewed ratio to one of the few that I'm not taking.
     
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    Hi Sherpa,

    Lately I have been using a half of the NatureMade B-complex twice a day. Coming down on those B vits seems to have helped smooth things out.
     
  9. adreno

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    It would be hard to find someone that would be helped by that, too. At those low doses you might as well use food.

    But if you just want the RDA, you could use this one:

    http://www.bioticsresearch.com/node/1705
     
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  10. SwanRonson

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    Yes, that much b5 would make me feel manic. Anything more than about 50mg of pantothenic makes me feel like my brain is on fire.

    Thank you @adreno , that looks like exactly what I was looking for. I have severe SIBO right now, so absorption from food is not cutting it, even though I don't think I need much more than RDA for most of the B's. So something close to RDA would be easy to dose up and down by cutting in half or adding more pills each time. I think I'll go order this one now.
     
  11. Gondwanaland

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    I have been taking a custom made B complex and played with some dosages. The most interesting results I got was from B2. I started with 5mg of B2. Then raised it to 8mg and had bad results that I think are related to ammonia and/or serotonin. Then lowered it to 2mg. Same bad results o_O I think it somehow relates to my +/+ MAO-A and slow serotonin breakdown.
     

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