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What are the commonly available immune modulators?

Discussion in 'Antivirals, Antibiotics and Immune Modulators' started by Gingergrrl, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. halcyon

    halcyon Senior Member

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    200 mcg not mg, but yeah that is what I take. Hip has a thread about it here. He takes 400 mcg but I wanted to start out low. Selenomethionine is supposed to be a well absorbed form of selenium. I take it in the morning and I haven't noticed any effects other than my nails.
     
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    Gingergrrl Senior Member

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    @halcyon Oops, I meant mcg not mg! It turns out we had a bottle of it in the house but it is long expired so I will need to buy a new one. The bottle says the active ingredient is from L-Selenomethionine so I assume that is the same thing. It also says that it works synergistically with Vitamin E. Do you take it with Vit E and if so, at what dose? I didn't read the thread from Hip yet but I will.
     
  3. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    I also think a trial of selenium is reasonable in Hashi's.

    Most studies showing a reduction of antibodies used 200 mcg of selenomethionine. This is a chelates form of selenium bound to methionine. It's unclear to me if it is only this form that is effective but this is what was found to be effective. A study using a sodium chelate did not find statistically significant reductions, if I remember correctly. But, alas, no RCT has been done.

    I take 200 mcg of selenomethionine per day, usually in the evening and notice no side effects at all. I don't have Hashi's though and take it for general immune support.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17696828/

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23744563/
     
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  4. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    Azithromycin is a macrolide antibiotic, and macrolides have anti-inflammatory and immunomodulatory actions. For the anti-inflammatory effects, this study found the macrolide roxithromycin to be the most potent.

    I am not sure why Valtrex is on the list at all; I am not aware of any immunomodulatory effects that this drug has.
     
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  5. Gingergrrl

    Gingergrrl Senior Member

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    @Ema Thanks and I bought a bottle today of L-selenomethionine that I will start as soon as it arrives. I bought the 100 mcg just to be safe but if I have no negative reaction, I will quickly bump it up to 200 mcg. I know it can help lower the Hashi's antibodies and I probably should have been taking it all along even if just for that. Now that I know it provides general immune support, it was a no-brainer to add to my supplement routine.

    @Hip thanks for explaining re: azithromycin and although I won't be taking any antibiotics, I was just curious. I also had wondered why Valtrex would make the list and not Famvir so maybe it's inclusion was just an error.

    A lot of the other ones on the list (Amantadine, Ampligen, Atesunate, or Etanercept) sound more rare and obscure and I don't know of anyone on PR who takes them (although I could be totally wrong about that of course.) Isn't Ampligen still not FDA approved and only in clinical trials or many thousands per month to try it privately?
     
  6. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    I've tried amantadine. It's a mild antiviral and some find it overly stimulating. I didn't notice much from it so I stopped taking it.

    Artesunate is a derivative of artemisinin which is often used in the treatment of babesia. I've taken different forms of this as well and I definitely think it is anti microbial. Not sure about the immune modulating effects but a good one in my opinion to rotate in when dealing with Lyme and Co in particular.
     
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  7. Sushi

    Sushi Moderation Resource Albuquerque

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    Quite a few here have taken these at one time or another. If you try a search, you should find some information. There was a great deal of discussion of Ampligen earlier and some here have taken it.

    Best,
    Sushi
     
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    Oops, sorry and I was totally wrong and glad I asked! I knew there had been lots of discussions about Ampligen but didn't realize that many people here had actually tried it. Is it FDA approved now? I was not familiar at all with the other ones and will google or do a site search later. Thanks again Ema & Sushi.
     
  9. Sushi

    Sushi Moderation Resource Albuquerque

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    No, it isn't but a recent study showing some effect on Ebola might help it along.

    Sushi
     
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  10. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    This popped up in my email regarding selenium this morning:

    Makes me wonder though...is it really over activating the immune system if it causes the immune system to collapse? Ultimately, the immune system is thus underactive and would seem to need some pepping back up potentially rather than calming down. Probably it depends on the timing...
     
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    I'm so sorry to hear about this dear friend. Parasites like toxoplasmosis could damage your brain when exposed to magnets. I have also lost my mental abilities and cannot speak or pronounce some workds.

    I had neck swelling for 2 years and the back of my head went numb from loss of blood flow and after being attacked and beaten unconscious I was disfigured and lost my sight from Bell's Palsy. I began taking rocephin+gentamicin+clarithromycin and for 8 days I had neck pain and the swelling went down some. I am waiting for a Lyme Elisa test and have been disabled from brain fog and central apnea, PLMD seizures, hypnic jerks.
    what kind of infection do I have? Thanks so much
     
  12. pattismith

    pattismith Senior Member

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    Does someone knows how much active ingredient contains one tablet of Imunovir ?
    And about the KDM protocol?:thumbdown:
     
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