Firestormm
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I mentioned on this thread a recent amendment to the WCA that would appear to want to separate 'physical' from 'mental' and that the latter would presumably apply to neurological conditions, or conditions that cause cognitive problems for example i.e. it would be bad for us.
It would appear that the new ESA50 does refer to neurological under Part 2 (see below) the section that deals with cognitive issues and would therefore seem at odds with this proposed amendment. I've asked Dr Shepherd for some clarification (assuming he is able to clarify).
Also worth noting - and I've only had a cursory glance - that the words "reliably, safely" are used in at least the physical assessment and in relation to the neurological/mental assessment I see they now use "you must be able to do the activity safely, to an acceptable standard, as often as you need to and in a reasonable length of time" which seems bloody fair to me.
Does this represent real progress? Maybe too early to tell. I'd need to properly read through the form. I think that the Fluctuating Conditions Group recommendations have yet to take effect. In as much as I can remember these proposals are still to be tested by the DWP.
Of course it will make buggar all difference if as a patient I am not considered to suffer with a disability that affects my cognitive function. But I have to say that my assessments have been quite relevant in the past - if erroneously concluded and in need of successful appeal.
We shall see...
It would appear that the new ESA50 does refer to neurological under Part 2 (see below) the section that deals with cognitive issues and would therefore seem at odds with this proposed amendment. I've asked Dr Shepherd for some clarification (assuming he is able to clarify).
Also worth noting - and I've only had a cursory glance - that the words "reliably, safely" are used in at least the physical assessment and in relation to the neurological/mental assessment I see they now use "you must be able to do the activity safely, to an acceptable standard, as often as you need to and in a reasonable length of time" which seems bloody fair to me.
Does this represent real progress? Maybe too early to tell. I'd need to properly read through the form. I think that the Fluctuating Conditions Group recommendations have yet to take effect. In as much as I can remember these proposals are still to be tested by the DWP.
Of course it will make buggar all difference if as a patient I am not considered to suffer with a disability that affects my cognitive function. But I have to say that my assessments have been quite relevant in the past - if erroneously concluded and in need of successful appeal.
We shall see...
January 2013. Work Capability Questionnaire ESA50
e.g.
Part 1 - Physical functions
Q.
How far can you move safely and repeatedly on level ground without needing to stop?
For example, because of tiredness, pain, breathlessness or lack of balance.
A.
50 metres – this is about the length of 5 double-decker buses, or twice the length of an average public swimming pool.
100 metres – this is about the length of a football pitch.
200 metres or more
It varies
Part 2 - Mental, cognitive and intellectual functions
To answer Yes to any of the following questions, you must be able to do the activity safely, to an acceptable standard, as often as you need to and in a reasonable length of time.
By mental, cognitive and intellectual functions we mean things like mental illness, learning
difficulties and the effects of head injuries or other brain or neurological conditions.