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To see how far academics can be corrupt, see German defence minister scandal!

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by SilverbladeTE, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

    Somewhere near Glasgow, Scotland
    as a general warning on how far corruption and ego can go, just because you have a PhD, doesn't mean you know automatically jack squat or are actually able to operate in the field, so yeah, always check folks' work and ethics. Most people are honest and their work valid...but there's always ratbags, in ANY field.

    A PhD or whatever, is just a statement of as it were, completing "basic training", real work tends ot comes afterward ya leave Uni
    (with the exception of some serious research and creative works, some folk earn their PhDs or BSCs etc, with damn hard and long, or amazing, effort)

    in this case his work was on constitutional and historical stuff about Eurpe/USA.
    But lot of science/medical researchers over the years have been shown to be frauds, egotistical maniacs or just plain old decent folk with issues that overwhelm them, too.
    I love science, but it's not some damn Ivory Tower of Perfection, built by lot of hard mostly very boring work of great patience, and constantly gets worked on, with a few bad bits removed, lots of erroneous bits updated etc.

  2. Merry

    Merry Senior Member

    Columbus, Ohio, USA
    "Retractions by U.S. scientists, compared with the retractions by scientists of other countries, are more often due to fraud."

    This is from Harper's Margazine, February 2011, on the "Findings" page, which compiles in a few paragraphs outcomes of research and sometimes court cases. The aim of the compilers is to amuse, I guess, and no sources for any of the items are provided. I don't know if the "Findings" page is accessible to non-subscribers at the magazine's website.
  3. Enid

    Enid Senior Member

    Rotten silverbade is it not, like all other institutions not above dishonesties I guess.
  4. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

    Somewhere near Glasgow, Scotland
    plagarism is a HUGE problem for all higher learning institutes nowadays, as is out right fraud :/
    there's online services, who for cash, will write up or give you a specially "tweaked" copy of a thesis or whatever (I will not even name or give articles about that, for obvious reasons)
    hence there's actually special services/software apparently to check for this kind of stuff, and work by law agencies to cut down on the cash services

    What's annoying as hell to me, is, that this guy has very wealthy background and still did this, now I know he may well have been rushed, and I'll be the first to say pressures of life can push you to do stupid damn things, but hey, he has money/time to re-do, take a break, whatever.

    I couldn't get a University education: family was poor, out of work/disbaled (back in 1980s, horrendous unemployment in my area), greedy government and other issues resulted in no chance of grant/scholarship funding it (best I could get was 3000 MAYBE out of 15000 needed)
    Least I managed ot get to college about 10 years ago afore my health ruined that.
    So, seeing this well-to-do fella, cheat...oh boy! :rolleyes:

    know what I mean? :)

    now, form what Little I've heard of the guy he seems interesting, good reforms on military? National Service is *BAD* for the army, such work can be good for the person when done right, but conscripted armies suck in practice versus volunteers (sorry, hard fact)
    dunno about this scandal of mutiny/death on ship, that's very serious, what's the background on that?

    Msot of the "media" are the "psychs" of the public world!! ;) Jeesh they may pretend to be Left or Right, but it's a croc, you'll find most of them are up tot their eyeballs in crap.
    Over here, Guardian is supposed to be a very forethright, investagative "Liberal" newspaper
    not just "Left", more..."thoughtful", ya know? often come out with very damn good reports on stuff foolk want covered up
    So, they had been ripping into the bankers over the financial crisis, and quite rightly so
    BUT...turns out the Guardian had made a fortune from share/money dealings during that same damn period, ie, they are jsut as bad as the ones they castigated!!

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