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The Crossover between Hypothyroidism and CFS

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by debored13, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. debored13

    debored13 Senior Member

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    I understand what you're saying and I don't think he's necessarily correct. But if you look at his reasoning, it's far more sound than homeopathy. CFS does tend to exist in clusters with other correlated diagnoses. And it is true that around the 70s , people stopped diagnosing thyroid issues based on basal metabolic rate and started diagnosing them based on blood tests only. And that was about when the first CFS cases started.

    It's also true that there's a lot of overlap in symptoms. Overall I think it's too simplified, but there are links between purinergic signalling and the thyroid
     
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    echobravo Keep searching, the answer is out there

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    Yep, this exact same thing happens to me as well, been on T3/T4 since 2005, and after that blood work has shown high SHBG and low free testosteron.

    I have also been contemplating if we really should be intervening too much with our adrenal and thyroid hormones (trying to increase energy or improve allostatic response) - for the same reason that you mention - that our body at some point decided to downregulate our metabolism, maybe in the face of imminent damage (Naviaux & CDR comes to mind).
     
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    I couldn't manage to read most of the linked paper. I've been hypo-thyroid since adolescence. My downward spiral into ME began when I was 50, the final crash when I was 54. I discovered John Lowe's thyroid work about 7 years later. After 2 years working w/ GP and compounding chemist w/ various combinations of natural thyroid, T3, T4, it became clear that Lowe's suggestion of T3 only is what works for me. Clearly all the decades I was on thyroxine I was under-medicated.

    But switching to T3 did not cure my ME. And a couple years later, when I discovered how gluten was poisoning me, I returned to Lowe's book and found not a single reference to gluten. Maybe it's got nothing to do w/ thyroid, but from what I experienced after eliminating gluten, it appeared to have huge impact on my body.

    [I've had a sympathetic GP who told me initially he knows nothing about CFS, but was willing to order tests I suggested and work through the thyroid rx. I never asked about what my diagnosis was, as it might certainly have been just hypothyroid in his estimation. Recently I was seated so that I could see the computer screen at the office, and was pleased to see CFS as well as hypothyroid and MTHFR as my dx. He's also been amazed at my improvements after diet changes and methylation protocol.]
     
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  4. echobravo

    echobravo Keep searching, the answer is out there

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    This is new to me. Is there some written work by him that you would recommend? What are his theories about hypothyroidism?
     
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    pattismith Senior Member

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    SHBG at 195 may indicate tissu thyrotoxicosis, or an estrogen supplementation

    https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical and Interpretive/9285
     

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