Rod's back! Coverage in The Spectator, 2nd November

[Sidereal]

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.@BPSOfficial @peterkinderman refused debate and threatened my universities w/ legal action if they did not muzzle me.

https://twitter.com/coyneoftherealm/status/660196634521812992

This tweet has nothing to do with PACE.

 

[Ecoclimber]

Yeah, Kinderman is a different fight Coyne's been having Different debate too. Coyne's not an ME/CFS guy, and most certainly not exclusively, and he's attacking other aspects of bad psych research.

Yea but the other repsonses indicate otherwise targeting PACE @MEawareness and #MEcfs?

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   @CoyneoftheRealm @BPSOfficial @peterkinderman wish we could afford legal action for global medical neglect(!) #MEcfs
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   • maxwhd ‏@maxwhd Oct 31
     @MEawareness @CoyneoftheRealm @BPSOfficial @peterkinderman http://www.aepc.es/psclinica_web/ProgramaCientifico_en.html … http://www.aepc.es/psclinica_web/CV/CVChalder_en.html … COLLABORATING INSTITUTIONS->BPS

maxwhd ‏@maxwhd Oct 31

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  @CoyneoftheRealm @BPSOfficial @peterkinderman wish we could afford legal action for global medical neglect(!) #MEcfs
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  • • maxwhd ‏@maxwhd Oct 31
    • @MEawareness @CoyneoftheRealm @BPSOfficial @peterkinderman http://www.aepc.es/psclinica_web/ProgramaCientifico_en.html … http://www.aepc.es/psclinica_web/CV/CVChalder_en.html … COLLABORATING INSTITUTIONS->BPS
    • Kyla ‏@sandwichpickle Oct 30 Toronto, Ontario
      @CoyneoftheRealm @BPSOfficial @peterkinderman Wow. Sorry PACE authors trying to bully you. Far as I know Scientific debate is still legal

 

[Valentijn]

Yea but the other repsonses indicate otherwise targeting PACE @MEawareness and #MEcfs?

So they misunderstood too?

 

[JayS]

And, he comes back for more.

The ME lobby is just a symptom of our stupidity about mental illness

https://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11...ymptom-of-our-stupidity-about-mental-illness/

"The principal British researcher, Professor Simon Wessely at King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, held that ME was almost certainly a psychiatric condition — and that was when the death threats started."

 

[Wildcat]

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Rod Liddle again, in a frenzy of Gaslighting of ME patients.

 

[eafw]

https://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11...ymptom-of-our-stupidity-about-mental-illness/

"The principal British researcher, Professor Simon Wessely at King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, held that ME was almost certainly a psychiatric condition — and that was when the death threats started."

Another one for the archives http://archive.is/2kqPh

"Professor Simon Wessely at King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, held that ME was almost certainly a psychiatric condition"

Anyone on twitter care to ask Wessely if he endorses Liddle's statement here, surely this counts as "harrasment" in Wessely's book ?

 

[Wildcat]

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I first posted this two days ago, on another thread.

'If journalists are genuinely afraid of ME patients - why do they persist in writing inflammatory articles on ME?

So often (in the UK national press, over decades) an inflammatory article on ME, containing misinformation on the disease and derogatory towards the patients, is followed by a second inflammatory article complaining that ME patients had written to the journalist to correct their misinformation. Its a trick. The journalists get to denigrate and demonise the patients, while the journalists manouver themselves into the role of victim.'

In this instance Liddle paints Prof Wessely as The Great Victim.

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[Scarecrow]

Another one for the archives http://archive.is/2kqPh

"Professor Simon Wessely at King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, held that ME was almost certainly a psychiatric condition"

Anyone on twitter care to ask Wessely if he endorses Liddle's statement here, surely this counts as "harrasment" in Wessely's book ?

Whether he endorses it or not, 'psychiatric' does not mean 'all in the mind'. Even if Liddle thinks so, Wessely does not.

 

[eafw]

Whether he endorses it or not, 'psychiatric' does not mean 'all in the mind'. Even if Liddle thinks so, Wessely does not.

ME is not a psychiatric condition. Whatever Wesseley's personal definition of psychiatric, no meaningful serious clinical or even common definition of the term leads us to ME being psychiatric.

 

[Valentijn]

ME is not a psychiatric condition. Whatever Wesseley's personal definition of psychiatric, no meaningful serious clinical or even common definition of the term leads us to ME being psychiatric.

Of course it's not psychiatric. Wessely believes it's psychosomatic, and he's clearly wrong. An overwhelming amount of evidence proves he is wrong.

 

[BurnA]

Everyone enjoying themselves?

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/20...e-syndrome-is-not-actually-a-chronic-illness/

Has this page been edited to remove some of the original content ? If so, does anyone know where to find the full original ?

 

[worldbackwards]

Has this page been edited to remove some of the original content ? If so, does anyone know where to find the full original ?

No, it was like that to start with. He did expand on his thoughts in a subsequent article, which is knocking about the place somewhere.

 

[BurnA]

No, it was like that to start with. He did expand on his thoughts in a subsequent article, which is knocking about the place somewhere.

My suspicion, based upon the evidence I have seen and wrote about in my book "Whining Selfish Monkeys" ...

How can anyone take this man seriously? That sounds like a comedy routine.

Yeah, I know some people do, but they're hardly worth arguing with. Some people believe professional wrestling is real wrestling, too. Rational argument is not going to change that kind of mind.

I was looking for the above line but couldn't find it...