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Reducing DNA Rates and Increasing Positive Contacts in an Outpatient Chronic Fatigue Service

Dolphin

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Free full text: http://qir.bmj.com/content/6/1/u212876.w5262.full

Reducing DNA Rates and Increasing Positive Contacts in an Outpatient Chronic Fatigue Service

  1. Tumseela Masoud,
  2. Amar Shah,
  3. Shameem Joomun,
  4. Amar Shah
-Author Affiliations

  1. East London Foundation Trust, UK


Abstract
The Chronic Fatigue Service at East London NHS Foundation Trust recognised and coalesced around its major issue of engaging its service users. Using the systematic approach of quality improvement, and the infrastructure provided within East London NHS FT's quality improvement programme, it tested a number of change ideas which saw a significant reduction in non-attendance at appointments, an increase in patient cancellations when they could not attend, and an increase in positive contacts with the service. All these improvements surpassed the initial aims set within the project, and have been sustained over the course of 18 months.
 

A.B.

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Okay, the only mildly interesting thing, for me at least, was

Over recent years, it had been noticed that the level of engagement in the Chronic Fatigue Service was beginning to decline, i.e the number of patients not attending their appointments was increasing

I wonder why. Could it be that patients are becoming better informed and have less faith in the offered treatments?

Since the introduction of the Chronic Fatigue Service in East London NHS Foundation Trust (ELFT) outcome data has shown that approximately three quarters of patients with a diagnosis of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome either recovered or showed improvements in their illness from being in the clinic.

No reference is given, which probably means that they are trying to infer causality and reason about treatment effectiveness under circumstances where this is impossible (outside of a clinical trial).

A randomised trial showed that a quarter recover and half show significant life improvement.

Refers to the PACE trial. Actually it showed that these treatments don't work and can be accurately described as placebo treatment.
 
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Countrygirl

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Over recent years, it had been noticed that the level of engagement in the Chronic Fatigue Service was beginning to decline, i.e the number of patients not attending their appointments was increasing

I wonder if they have considered whether sending patients questionnaires to complete which make it clear they regard their patients as fruitcakes has any influence on their intended victim's enthusiasm to sign up for a course in CBT and GET and a jolly session with a psychologist.....................and 12 sessions of group therapy?.

Beside me as I type is a bundle of forms for me to fill in from such a clinic. They want to know whether I have the 'confidence' to stop my 'fatigue' from interfering in my daily activities; whether I have the 'confidence' to keep my 'emotional distress' under control; whether I have the 'confidence' to stop my symptoms from interfering in my daily activities; and whether I have the 'confidence' to reduce the number of times I bother a doctor.

With questions such as the above, do they seriously expect people with this illness to attend their fruitloop clinics?

The questions are not only insulting but they clearly show a total lack of understanding of this devastating illness by the people who staff the clinics.

It would be a service to ME patients if they closed them down. They do more harm than good.
 

Chrisb

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@Countrygirl On the question of the forms which were sent to you for completion, is it known whether this is a standardised form used nationally, or is it regional? It would be interesting to know who was on the committee responsible for their design and dissemination, and why they thought these questions relevant.
 

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@Countrygirl On the question of the forms which were sent to you for completion, is it known whether this is a standardised form used nationally, or is it regional? It would be interesting to know who was on the committee responsible for their design and dissemination, and why they thought these questions relevant.

I don't know the answer to that, @Chrisb except when I saw Prof Pinching at his clinic 18 years ago I wasn't asked such patronising nonsense. We need someone who has recently attended one of the other fruitloop clinics to tell us if they have similar forms to fill in.

I am amazed that they think it is acceptable to insult people which such twaddle.
 

Dolphin

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Back in 2007 I saved this list of what was the minimum data set that the clinics/services should each collect. I have no idea whether the list has changed or not.

http://www.cfspod.net/Assessment Tools.htm

The Adult Minimum Dataset (MDS) for the Collaborative, consisting of the 8
High Risk Questions, Assessment Form v5, Chalder, CGI, Customer Registration,
Follow-up form, HADS, Information for Users, RAND, VAS and various
instructions
The Children's Minimum Dataset (MDS) for the Collaborative, consisting of
Assessment Form for Young People v6, Chalder, CGI, Follow-up form, HADS,
Information for Users, VAS and various instructions
The Composite International Diagnostic Interview-Short Form (CIDI-SF) is a 26
page interview schedule designed to identify patients with DSMIV diagnoses of
depression, anxiety, phobias etc.. It should only be used after training.
There are instructions! (Poole 12/04).
The Chalder Fatigue questionnaire - in use in most CFS services (Poole 12/04)
The 12 question version of the General Health Questionnaire (GHQ12) (Poole
12/04)
The Hospital Anxiety and Depression Scale (HAD) - most people's favourite for
identifying...(you guessed it...) anxiety and depression! (Poole 12/04)
The Holistic Complementary and Alternative Health Questionnaire, together with
its instructions (Poole 12/04)
The Nijmegen Questionnaire - ask Selwyn for more information! (Poole 12/04)
The Epworth Sleepiness Scale, together with rating instructions (Poole 12/04)
The World Health Organisation Quality of Life questionnaire (WHOQoL-BREF)
Australian Version (Poole 12/04)
Suicide Risk screening questionnaire
 

Binkie4

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@Countrygirl On the question of the forms which were sent to you for completion, is it known whether this is a standardised form used nationally, or is it regional? It would be interesting to know who was on the committee responsible for their design and dissemination, and why they thought these questions relevant.

@Chrisb

I was rereferred to the local mE/CFS clinic last year after deteriorating significantly. Yes there were oodles of forms including the esteemed Chalder fatigue questionnaire at which my blood boiled.

It really did boil. I am finding it difficult even to write it.

I did not complete most of the papers but there was one asking what I wanted from the appointment. I replied to that one that I wanted a biomedical treatment.

The appointment was with a nurse. I asked to have an appointment with the doctor running the service, and was told that wasn't possible because he only saw patients needing a diagnosis and I was already diagnosed, in 2008 confirmed by that clinic in 2009/10.

I was offered GET, said no thank you and I was not pressed to take it. I was discharged from the service at that point which I agreed with. I didn't want their treatments.

Of course throughout the appointment I had talked about the nightmare Pace trial and the appalling treatments offered by Nice, especially the dangers of GET. The nurse didn't disagree with me and looked embarrassed at offering it I thought.

I don't regret going because I had no intention of doing anything recommended in CG53, but I wanted to see if there was anything biomedical on offer. No B12 injections ( I asked), but a sheet of recommended supplements to buy oneself.

Apologies if this final attempt does not correct the yellow box issue. When I last looked it seemed to have spread to adjacent postings so it may be wiser to stop trying now!
 
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